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Roanoke County Administration Center
5204 Bernard Drive
Roanoke, Virginia 24018
November 1, 2004
The Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia met this 1st day of
November, 2004, attheRoanoke County Administration Center, this being a special
meeting for the purpose of discussing proposed changes to the Roanoke County
Community Plan.
IN RE: CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Flora called the meeting to order at 5:40 p.m. The roll call was
taken.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Richard C. Flora,Vice-Chairman Michael W.
Altizer, Supervisors Joseph B. “Butch” Church, Michael A.
Wray
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Supervisor Joseph P. McNamara
STAFF PRESENT:
Elmer C. Hodge, County Administrator; Paul M. Mahoney,
County Attorney; John M. Chambliss, Jr., Assistant County
Administrator; Dan R. O’Donnell, Assistant County
Administrator; Diane S. Childers, Clerk to the Board; Teresa
Hamilton Hall, Public Information Officer
The following members of the Planning Commission were present at the meeting:
Steve Azar, Martha Hooker, Rodney McNeil, and Al Thomason.
Community Development staff present included: Arnold Covey, Director of Community
Development; and Janet Scheid, Chief Planner.
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IN RE: WORK SESSION
1. Work session to discuss proposed changes to the Community
Plan.
Mr. Hodge advised that Dr. Chandler is unable to attend the meeting
tonight due to illness. He further advised that the Planning Commission anticipates
concluding the community plan review at their meeting tomorrow evening and will
forward it to the Board.
Mr. Mahoney stated that the Board has 90 days from the time the
community plan is sent to the Board from the Planning Commission to act. He reported
that the Planning Commission will hold their public hearing tomorrow night. Mr. Hodge
advised that the Board is tentatively scheduled to hold their public hearing on the
community plan at the second meeting in January 2005. In response to inquiries from
the Board, Ms. Scheid and Mr. Azar reported that they have not had any inquiries
regarding the community plan public hearing.
Mr. Covey stated that at the last meeting, Supervisor Altizer requested
information on the number of homes that have been built. Mr. Covey provided a map
which showed the number of certificates of occupancy issued during 2003-2004 which
totaled approximately 823. Mr. Covey advised that the report reflects that development
is more spread out and not concentrated in one area. Supervisor Flora inquired if there
is a report available that shows the number of occupancy permits issued. Mr. Covey
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responded in the affirmative, and Supervisor Flora requested that this report be added
to the reports section of the agenda on a monthly basis.
Ms. Scheid presented an elevation map of Roanoke County and outlined
the following elevations: 795-1500 feet (dark green); 1500-1750 feet (purple); 1750-
2000 feet (burgundy); 2000-2250 feet (blue); 2250+ feet (tan). She stated that based on
this map, staff has calculated the number of square miles of land in each category
which is as follows: green = 112; purple = 31; burgundy = 28; blue = 25; tan = 51. Ms.
Scheid stated that staff recommends that the Board examine both slope and elevation
and cited the example of Bent Mountain which is very flat but is also very high in
elevation.
In order to proceed with implementation, Ms. Scheid stated that the Board
must initially decide what it is they are trying to protect, i.e., important views, high
mountains, steep slopes. She stated that once this is determined, then staff must
determine how to map it. Supervisor Flora stated that slopes above 30% obviously
need to be protected and questioned what the Board’s opinion was with regard to
slopes.
Supervisor Wray questioned if there are legal decisions that will impact
regulation of slopes. Mr. Mahoney stated that the concerns of property owners are
based on the premise that government is “taking my land”; therefore, the citizens must
be compensated for it. He stated that the Board must establish a goal and link it with
the purposes set forth to obtain the goal. Mr. Mahoney advised that some legitimate
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issues for government to regulate this type of construction include the following: fire
and police coverage, school transportation, trash collection, storm water runoff to
houses below, etc.
Mr. Hodge requested that the Board provide direction to the Planning
Commission and staff regarding what they would like to see done. Supervisor Flora
stated that slopes are easy to deal with but voiced concerns about protection of ridge
tops. Ms. Scheid noted that many of the issues deal with the design guidelines in order
to protect the view shed. Supervisor Flora indicated that slopes will need to be related
to the amount of land that is with a lot, and advised that you will need larger lot sizes if
you are building on a steep slope. Mr. Covey stated that the Board needs to specify
which level of slope should be regulated. Supervisor Flora responded that he feels this
is more of an engineering decision, and advised that he would recommend developing
an ordinance that regulates development on slopes so that the County no longer has
the problems that are currently being experienced. Mr. Covey questioned if the Board
wanted the community plan to be more general, and then follow up with more specific
guidelines in the ordinances.
Supervisor Church questioned if there are any other localities that have
similar guidelines to protect slopes. Ms. Scheid advised that Botetourt County has
begun taking steps in this direction, but they are not experiencing a lot of success. She
further advised that Albemarle County has drafted elevation and slope ordinances that
have not yet been adopted.
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Mr. Hodge questioned how the home builders have reacted to the
proposed revisions to the community plan. Mr. Covey responded that the proponents
and opponents are evenly divided. Bob Flynn, representative of the Regional Home
Builders Association, stated that there are some components of the plan which are
good, and there are other pieces that the home builders do not like. He stated that they
are proposing that the County develop a mountain zoning district which would not be an
overlay, but an actual zoning district.Mr. Flynn stated that with respect to slope
development, the issues will focus on what occurs within a parcel (i.e., how to handle a
100 acre tract where portions of the property have steep slopes). He also questioned
what will happen to the development plan in the approval process, and how areas with a
ravine that will be filled in with a grading plan will be treated. He noted that there are
few single slope tracts in the County. Ms. Scheid advised that this has been one of the
problems with the cluster ordinance and revisions are needed. Supervisor Flora stated
that the Board must take into account the finished topography of the land. Mr. Flynn
noted that it will be difficult to draft language in the ordinance to deal with these types of
situations.
Mr. Thomason advised that the Planning Commission had visited a
development in Asheville, North Carolina, which was successfully built on steep slopes.
He stated that the development was beautiful and unique, and he requested that Ms.
Scheid have the material available for display at the Planning Commission’s meeting
tomorrow night. Ms. Scheid stated that Asheville’s ridge top and steep slope ordinance
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is based on varying types of soils and noted that some soil types are more stable than
others. She advised that after speaking with a soil scientist in Roanoke County, she
was informed that the County would not be able to base decisions on soil types in
Roanoke County.
Mr. Azar advised that most of the citizen concerns relate to steep slopes
and protection of ridge tops. He stated that they do not want to see another situation
such as Slate Hill occur.
Supervisor Flora inquired if the County can control clear cutting and land
disturbance of commercial sites. Mr. Covey stated that the Forestry Department has
indicated that this is within their jurisdiction and the County cannot regulate it. He did
advise, however, that if a rezoning request comes forward, the Community
Development Department does not allow the petitioner to proceed with grading until the
rezoning request has been approved by the Planning Commission and it appears that
there will be no opposition to the project. Supervisor Wray stated that he would like
language in the ordinance that prohibits grading until the rezoning is approved.
Mr. Mahoney advised that there are two issues:(1) chopping down trees;
and (2) moving dirt that will cause erosion problems. He stated that trees are an
agricultural product and can legally be timbered, and this is different than moving land.
He advised that the government assumes that chopping down trees is the first step
toward some future development activity, but it is not necessarily that way. He indicated
that there are additional ordinances the County can adopt with respect to clear cutting;
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however, the General Assembly has removed much of the Board’s authority in that
area, and a clear distinction must be drawn between cutting trees and moving or
grading land.
Supervisor Church questioned whether staff can draft an ordinance that
accomplishes what Mr. Mahoney was stating. Mr. Covey indicated that normally this
process does not affect residential development but focuses primarily on commercial
development. He noted that changes made in February 2004 have given Community
Development greater control over individual home sites. With respect to commercial
development, Mr. Covey advised that developers need the ability to cut an access road
and grade the site in order to market the property. The proposed changes present a
problem for developers in this regard. With respect to erosion and sediment control, Mr.
Covey advised that this is a good ordinance although there is currently no time limit on
filing the plan. If requirements are to be implemented regarding deadlines for filing the
plan, questions that will need to be addressed include how to track the information, how
to determine the right number of days, etc. Mr. Covey stated that he is not certain that
the current standards can be tightened any further.
Ms. Scheid noted that the County did require a slope maintenance bond
for Slate Hill and Mr. Hodge recommended that this approach continue in circumstances
that merit slope protection. Mr. Hodge questioned how the Board wanted to approach
situations where development was near a water tower or public structure, and if
protection of these facilities should be regulated. Mr. Covey stated that in dealing with
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slopes greater than 33%, specific requirements need to be established. Mr. Mahoney
noted that the legal system is designed to handle issues of liability.
Mr. Mahoney questioned if the Board was comfortable with the language
in the draft community plan and Ms. Scheid read the appropriate section in the
community plan. There was consensus of the Board that this language was acceptable.
There was general discussion regarding requirements for steep slope maintenance
bonds.
Ms. Scheid advised that the implementation schedule for ordinances has
been developed. It will take until the end of 2006 to get all the ordinances for the 15
implementation strategies in place. Mr. Covey stated that consultants will be hired to
assist staff in the development of the ordinances. Ms. Scheid advised that it is up to the
Planning Commission and Board of Supervisors to determine whether they wish to
adopt the revisions one at a time or as a package. She also noted that the ordinances
have not been prioritized and requested direction from the Planning Commission and
Board. Supervisor Church requested that Ms. Scheid provide the Board with the listing
of ordinances that would need to be adopted.
In response to an inquiry from Mr. Hodge, Mr. Mahoney stated that there
are existing ordinances which may be in conflict with the newly adopted community
plan. He stated that this could present problems in future rezoning petitions until the
ordinances are revised to be consistent with the new community plan.
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Supervisor Wray requested an explanation of “adequate public facilities”.
Mr. Hodge advised that this ties back to the Capital Improvement Program (CIP) and
the Board sets the standard. With respect to roads, the Board may establish a standard
that no road conditions will be below a level of service C. With respect to schools, the
Board can designate a ratio level or maximum number of students. Mr. Mahoney stated
that “adequate public facilities” has turned into a red herring and that Attorney General
Kilgore issued an opinion that local governments do not have the authority to require
adequate public facilities. He referenced the State Code which discusses the purposes
of zoning ordinances and stated that this is easy to defend. He cited examples where
the locality can justify adequate public facilities such as in areas where you cannot
access property in order to provide fire or rescue service. He stated that adequate
public facilities address public health, safety, and welfare.
In response to an inquiry from Supervisor Altizer, Mr. Mahoney advised
that part of the opposition to adequate public facilities relates to impact fees and the
opposition to them. In response to an inquiry from Supervisor Flora, Ms. Scheid
reported that there is nothing in the community plan with respect to impact fees. There
was general discussion of what constitutes adequate public facilities.
Supervisor Wray inquired about the status of the CIP review committee.
Mr. Hodge stated that the committee will meet this week and staff anticipates they will
have recommendations for the Board in December. It was noted that the CIP review
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committee is recommending that the Board begin banking land for future capital
projects.
Steve Azar requested clarification regarding prioritization of the draft
implementation strategies. Supervisor Flora stated that he would recommend that the
Planning Commission evaluate the order and which ordinances should be handled
together, and bring back a recommendation to the Board. There was a consensus to
proceed in this manner.
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Flora adjourned the meeting at 7:03 p.m.
Submitted by: Approved by:
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Diane S. Childers Richard C. Flora
Clerk to the Board Chairman