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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1/11/2022 - Regular January 11 , 2022 1 Roanoke County Administration Center 5204 Bernard Drive Roanoke, Virginia 24018 The Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia met this day at the Roanoke County Administration Center, this being the first regularly scheduled meeting of the month of January 2022. Audio and video recordings of this meeting will be held on file for a minimum of five (5) years in the office of the Clerk to the Board of Supervisors. IN RE: CALL TO ORDER Chairman Peters called the meeting to order at 2:01 p.m. The roll call was taken. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman P. Jason Peters; Supervisors Martha B. Hooker, Paul M. Mahoney, Phil C. North and David R. Radford MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Daniel R. O'Donnell, County Administrator; Richard Caywood, Assistant County Administrator; Rebecca Owens, Assistant County Administrator; Peter S. Lubeck, County Attorney; Amy Whittaker, Public Information Officer and Deborah C. Jacks, Chief Deputy Clerk to the Board IN RE: ORGANIZATION OF COUNTY BOARD 1. Election of Officers a. Chairman Supervisor Hooker nominated Supervisor Mahoney to serve as Chairman. Supervisor Mahoney was elected by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Mahoney, Hooker, North, Radford, Peters NAYS: None 2 January 11 , 2022 b. Vice Chairman Supervisor North nominated Supervisor Peters to serve as Vice Chairman. Supervisor Peters was elected by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Mahoney, Hooker, North, Peters, Radford NAYS: None Chairman Mahoney recessed the meeting at 2:04 P.M. - IN RE: OPENING CEREMONIES Before the meeting was called to order, Pastor Rodney of Valley Word Church provided an invocation. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited by all present. Chairman Mahoney called the meeting back into order at 3:04 p.m. All 111 Supervisors were in attendance. IN RE: PROCLAMATIONS, RESOLUTIONS, RECOGNITIONS AND AWARDS 1. Resolution congratulating the Glenvar High School Volleyball Team for winning the Virginia High School League (VHSL) Class 2 Championship (Martha B. Hooker, Supervisor, Catawba Magisterial District) RESOLUTION 011122-1 CONGRATULATING THE GLENVAR HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS VOLLEYBALL TEAM FOR WINNING THE VIRGINIA HIGH SCHOOL LEAGUE (VHSL) CLASS 2 CHAMPIONSHIP WHEREAS, athletic competitions are an important and integral part of the team curriculum at schools in Roanoke County; teaching cooperation, sportsmanship, teamwork and athletic skill; and WHEREAS, on November 20, 2021, the Glenvar High School Girls' Volleyball Team won the Class 2 team State championship at the Salem Civic Center. The Highlanders outscored Central Woodstock with a 25-16, 25-20 and 24-14; and January 11 , 2022 3 WHEREAS, the Highlander's only senior, Bailey Conner was a deadly weapon all over the Salem Civic Center floor, inspiring her teammates and terrorizing their opponent enabling Glenvar to win its second State championship; and WHEREAS, the overall skill and versatility of its team as well as overall athletic ability was highly impressive; and WHEREAS, the team represented their school and community with great character, poise and sportsmanship. They are a true asset to Roanoke County. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia does hereby extend its sincere congratulations to the members of the GLENVAR HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS VOLLEYBALL TEAM: Senior Bailey Conner; Juniors Sydney Loder, Rhyan Harris, Faren Wilson, Hannah Hylton, Cara Butler, Claire Griffith; Sophomores Audrey Conner, Daisy Ann Dawyot, Natalie McMahon, Jamie Forster and Freshmen Sophie Nicely, Olivia Fobare and Mahre Swanson. The managers: Hannah Pennewell, Emily Rohrback and Luke Rohrback and Head Coach Mark Rohrback and Assistant Coach Jen Rohrback. 111 BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Board of Supervisors extends its best wishes to the members of the team, the coaches and the school in their future endeavors. On motion of Supervisor Hooker to adopt the resolution, seconded by Supervisor North and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Radford, Mahoney NAYS: None 2. Resolution expressing the appreciation of the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County to Ramona Kern, Business Systems Analyst II, upon her retirement after more than forty (40) years of service (Bill Hunter, Director of Communications and Information Technology) RESOLUTION 011122-2 EXPRESSING THE APPRECIATION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF ROANOKE COUNTY TO RAMONA KERN, BUSINESS SYSTEMS ANALYST II, UPON HER RETIREMENT AFTER MORE THAN FORTY (40) YEARS OF SERVICE WHEREAS, Ramona Kern was employed by Roanoke County on December 1, 1980 and again on October 6, 1984; and 4 January 11 , 2022 WHEREAS, Ms. Kern retired on January 1, 2022, after forty (40) years and four (4) months of devoted, faithful and expert service to Roanoke County; and WHEREAS, Ms. Kern has served as a Deputy Sheriff-Corrections, Dispatcher, Communications Officer, Lead Communications Officer, Police Records Supervisor, Crime Analyst, Systems Technician, Business Analyst and Business Systems Analyst 1 and II; and WHEREAS, Ms. Kern, through her employment with Roanoke County, has been instrumental in improving the quality of life and providing services to the citizens of Roanoke County; and WHEREAS, throughout Ms. Kern's tenure with Roanoke County, she dedicated her career to public safety. Ramona was always willing to help out any way she could, providing support for various departments (creating custom reports, resolving system issues, or working with vendors). Ramona will be missed in Application Services and we all wish her the best in the next chapter of her life. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County expresses its deepest appreciation and the appreciation of the citizens of Roanoke County to RAMONA KERN for more than forty years of capable, loyal, and dedicated service to Roanoke County; and FURTHER, the Board of Supervisors does express its best wishes for a happy and productive retirement. On motion of Supervisor Peters to adopt the resolution, seconded by Supervisor Radford and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Radford, Mahoney NAYS: None IN RE: PUBLIC HEARING 1. Public hearing to receive citizen comments regarding proposed amendments to the fiscal year 2021-2022 budget in accordance with Code of Virginia Section 15.2-2507 (Laurie Gearheart, Director of Finance and Management Services) Chairman Mahoney opened and closed the public with no citizens to speak on this agenda_item. January 11 , 2022 5 IN RE: FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES 1. Emergency ordinance appropriating $52,244,350.27 from Roanoke County Public Schools' fiscal year 2020-2021 other year-end funds to the fiscal year 2021-2022 Roanoke County Public Schools Budget for other funds (It is requested, upon a four-fifths vote of the Board, the second reading be waived and the ordinance adopted as an emergency measure) (Susan Peterson, Director of Finance for Roanoke County Public Schools) Ms. Peterson outlined the request for the emergency ordinance. There was no discussion. EMERGENCY 011122-3 ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING $52,244,350.27 FROM ROANOKE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS' FISCAL YEAR 2020-2021 OTHER YEAR-END FUNDS TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 ROANOKE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUDGET FOR OTHER FUNDS WHEREAS, § 22.1-100 'of the Code of Virginia states that at the end of each fiscal year, all unexpended public school funds that were derived from the funds of the local governing body shall revert back to the governing body, and that it is within the local governing body's discretion whether to then re-appropriate such funds back to the school budget for the next year; and WHEREAS, Section 10, paragraph 6 of the County Board of Supervisors' Comprehensive Financial Policy (dated October 19, 2021) sets forth purposes for which such unexpended year-end funds may be re-appropriated; and WHEREAS, on December 14, 2021, the Board re-appropriated $9,560,389.91 of the Schools' unexpended fiscal year 2020-2021 year-end operating funds to the Schools' fiscal year 2021-2022 budget; and WHEREAS, the Roanoke County School Board has further requested that the Board of Supervisors re-appropriate an additional $52,244,350.27 of the Schools' unexpended other fiscal year 2020-2021 year-end funds to the Schools' fiscal year 2021-2022 budget, for the following purposes: Description Amount Fleet Replacement Fund $359,871.21 Instructional Resources Fund $86,806.50 Technology Replacement Fund $672,213.02 Grant Fund $5,138,318.41 Nutrition Fund $4,443,444.05 6 January 11 , 2022 Student Activity Fund $2,423,021.53 Minor Capital Fund $6,493,008.99 Major Capital Fund $9,933,489.24 2018 Bond Fund (CSH) $727,359.06 2022 Bond Fund (WBH) $12,000,000.00 Health Insurance Fund $7,169,566.44 Dental Fund $99,453.78 Risk Management Fund $1,196,604.97 OPEB Trust Fund $1,501,193.07 TOTAL $52,244,350.27 and; WHEREAS, the School Board's proposal is consistent with the Board of Supervisors' Comprehensive Financial Policy and previously established practices; and WHEREAS, the School Board has requested that the Board of Supervisors adopt this ordinance with only one reading .(as an emergency ordinance) in order to expedite the distribution of funds for necessary expenditures; and WHEREAS, the first reading of this ordinance was held on January 11, 2022, and the second reading has been dispensed with, upon an affirmative vote of 4/5ths of the members of the Board, this being deemed to be an emergency measure pursuant to Section 18.04 of the Roanoke County Charter. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, as follows: 1. The Roanoke County School Board's unexpended fiscal year 2020-2021 year-end funds in the amount of $52,244,350.27 are. appropriated to the School Board's fiscal year 2021-2022 budget, to be used as proposed for the above-stated purposes. 2. An emergency is deemed to exist, and this ordinance shall be effective upon its adoption. On motion of Supervisor North to adopt the ordinance, seconded by Supervisor Hooker and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Radford, Mahoney NAYS: None January 11 , 2022 7 IN RE: SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES 1. Ordinance amending the Roanoke County Public Schools budget and appropriating $1,845,871 to the Schools' General Fund (Susan Peterson, Director of Finance Roanoke County Public Schools) Ms. Peterson advised no changes since the first reading. There was no discussion. ORDINANCE 011122-4 AMENDING THE ROANOKE COUNTY SCHOOLS' BUDGET AND APPROPRIATING $1,845,871 TO THE SCHOOLS' GENERAL FUND WHEREAS, after operating for five months, Roanoke County Public Schools' staff have analyzed State revenue levels in order to accurately anticipate future funding that will be received from the Commonwealth; and WHEREAS, due to increased student enrollment and higher-than-expected State sales tax revenue receipts, the School Board anticipates receiving additional funds (higher than budgeted) from the Commonwealth in the amount of at least $1,845,871; and WHEREAS, County Schools report they are facing critical staffing shortages for certain hard-to-fill positions, and other pressing budget needs exist; and WHEREAS, the School Board proposes to make adjustments to the school pay scale that would become effective on January 15, 2022, in order to provide additional funding for such hard-to-fill positions; and WHEREAS, anticipating the above-mentioned additional funds from the Commonwealth, the School Board has requested that the Board of Supervisors amend the Schools' budget and appropriate $1,845,871 to the Schools' General Fund in order to provide funding for the proposed pay-scale increase (in the amount of$963,660) and to address other critical needs (in the amount of$882,211); and WHEREAS, the first reading of this ordinance was held on December 14, 2021, and the second reading was held on January 11, 2022. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, that $1,845,871 is appropriated to the Roanoke County Public Schools' General Fund, and that the Roanoke County Public Schools' budget is hereby accordingly amended to be consistent with this appropriation. On motion of Supervisor Hooker to adopt the ordinance, seconded by Supervisor Peters and carried by the following recorded vote: 8 January 11 , 2022 AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Radford, Mahoney NAYS: None IN RE: CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTION 011122-5 APPROVING AND CONCURRING IN CERTAIN ITEMS SET FORTH ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AGENDA FOR THIS DATE DESIGNATED AS ITEM H- CONSENT AGENDA BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, as follows: • That the certain section of the agenda of the Board of Supervisors for January 11, 2022, designated as Item H - Consent Agenda be, and hereby is, approved and concurred in as to each item separately set forth in said section designated Items 1 through 3 inclusive, as follows: 1. Resolution requesting the Virginia Department of Transportation (VDOT) accept Russlen Drive Road, Foxfield Section 7 in the Catawba Magisterial District into the Virginia Department of Transportation System 2. Request to accept and allocate funds in the amount of $13,555.91 to the Clerk of the Circuit Court from the Commonwealth of Virginia for Technology Trust Funds 3. Ratification of appointments to the Community Policy and Management Team (CPMT) On motion of Supervisor Peters to adopt the resolution, seconded by Supervisor Hooker and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Radford, Mahoney NAYS: None RESOLUTION 011122-5.a REQUESTING ACCEPTANCE OF RUSSLEN DRIVE (WESTERN PORTION) INTO THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (VDOT) SECONDARY SYSTEM WHEREAS, the streets described on the attached Addition Form AM-4.3, fully incorporated herein by reference, are shown on plats recorded in the Clerk's Office of the Circuit Court of Roanoke County; and January 11 , 2022 9 WHEREAS, the representative for the Virginia Department of Transportation has advised this Board that the street(s) meet the requirements established by the Virginia Department of Transportation's Subdivision Street Requirements; and WHEREAS, the County and the Virginia Department of Transportation have entered into an agreement on March 9, 1999, for comprehensive stormwater detention, which applies to this request for addition. NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, this Board requests the Virginia Department of Transportation to add the street(s) described on the attached Additions Form AM-4.3 to the secondary system of state highways, pursuant to §33.2-705, Code of Virginia, and the Department's Subdivision Street Requirements, after receiving a copy of this resolution and all outstanding fees and documents required of the developer, whichever occurs last in time. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, this Board guarantees a clear and unrestricted right-of-way, as described, and any necessary easements for cuts, fills and drainage; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that a certified copy of this resolution be forwarded to the Residency Administrator for the Virginia Department of Transportation; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, this Board hereby guarantees the performance of the street(s) requested herein to become a part of the State maintained secondary system of State highways for a period of one (1) year from the date of the acceptance of the referenced streets by VDOT into the secondary system of State highways. This Board will reimburse all costs incurred by VDOT to repair faults in the referenced streets and related drainage facilities associated with workmanship or materials as determined exclusively by VDOT. On motion of Supervisor Peters to adopt the resolution, seconded by Supervisor Hooker and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Radford, Mahoney NAYS: None A-011122-5.b A-011122-5.c I 0 January 11 , 2022 IN RE: CITIZENS COMMENTS Charles Wertalik of 2317 Bloomfield Avenue in the Summerfield subdivision of Roanoke County. Along with the happy New Year's greetings, which were very nice. There has been a nice increase in social security payments and a nice increase in his naval reserve pension due to the increase in the cost of living. Along with those good news items, there was this other thing that he got in the mail last week about; the notice of real estate assessment and it looks like there is quite an increase of what he owes this year in real estate taxes. He would like to mention what everybody knows about, the big increase in home values and it has been very unusual to have this really large increase and it has really resulted in a ballooning of the value upon which the tax rate is applied. He would just like to mention that he thinks the valuation should be adjusted to realize this ballooning of the values because it distorts the way the taxes come out in the end. He will avail himself of the avenues available to appeal this, but he just thinks it needs to be looked into a little bit more. IN RE: REPORTS Supervisor Hooker moved to receive and file the following reports. The motion was seconded by Supervisor Radford and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Mahoney, Hooker, North, Radford, Peters NAYS: None 1. Unappropriated, Board Contingency and Capital Reserves Report 2. Outstanding Debt Report 3. Statement of Treasurer's Accountability per Investment and Portfolio Policy as of November 30, 2021 IN RE: REPORTS AND INQUIRIES OF BOARD MEMBERS Supervisor Hooker stated it was a pleasure to have the Glenvar High School volleyball team in force today, what a lovely group; great coaches and outstanding individuals. She also mentioned attending the graduation of our law enforcement academy last Friday. We had five (5) graduates it was a great event. Supervisor North congratulated Supervisor Mahoney as he is now Chairman Mahoney for this year and he is looking forward to working with him and, "no good deed goes unpunished." Also, he reminded everyone there will be a meeting this Thursday from 4:00-6:00 p.m. at the Bonsack Elementary School concerning the Rt. January 11 , 2022 11 460 corridor. He understands there has been some people wanting to know why the meeting was not longer; he does not have an answer to that, but whether you come or you cannot make it, you should go onto the Roanoke County website and complete the survey that is out there because that input is important as well. As a matter of fact, he is going to do the same tomorrow. He is looking forward to that event and what folks have to say about the busy corridor, which is the second busiest in the Roanoke Valley. Supervisor Radford congratulated Supervisor Mahoney and is looking forward to him "steering the boat." He is glad it is Supervisor Mahoney and not him. He commented about the assessed values and provided a history lesson. He was in the middle of the worst recession our County has ever occurred besides the recession. In 2008, our high point for all our real estate valuation peaked in 2008. We had the housing bust. We had a lot of financial crisis in our economy, it absolutely wrecked house value; it wrecked daily lives of people; jobs and it was a total disaster: It continued until it bottomed finally in 2016-2017 and then our values and our real estate assessments started to climb back up. For the first time this year with our real estate assessment, his house value is the same as it was in 2008 and that is 14 years and that is how much of a scar that was left with this recession and we are just now back up to that point. The citizen asked a good question, why are the house values so high. It is high because from 2008 to 2017, we did not build any spec houses; nobody would loan us money. The inventories were absolutely low, so when the millennials started to buy houses four or five years ago, there went our existing stock. So, we finally started getting back into the business of building houses in 2017 and we are playing catchup now, today. He usually builds three to four houses a year and we are building eight to ten houses right now. We are taking calls, at least a couple of week, from people wanting a house built because existing inventory is low. It is like used cars, we saw a big influx with the values of the used cars, they went way up. So, we are seeing a repeat with our houses right now. He considers that a good thing, not a bad thing, because we want our values to continue to go up. Our house is our most important asset in our portfolio and we want it to continue to appreciate. He got hit with an 8% increase himself. Supervisor Mahoney thanked the Board for its confidence in him to think that he could be a decent Chairman and thank the Board that they think that highly of him that they put him into the middle of a box. We are heading into year three (3) of this pandemic. He really thought and hoped this would all be behind us when the medicines and the vaccines, etc. came out. It seems to be sticking with us and that clearly will have a significant impact on our ability to deliver critical needed public services to our citizens, but he is also optimistic we will work through it and will work through it successfully. We have a couple of tough issues facing us immediately. We are going to have a very difficult budget. We have seen the inflation numbers, 6.8%, 6.2% the last several months that obviously has a significant impact on what we do in terms of our 2 January 11 , 2022 budget; in terms of what the school board has to do with their budget because a lot of our budget is personnel and that is how we deliver services to people. We have tried to take steps to address salaries of our police, our sheriffs, our firefighters and all of our employees. We began a process to do that. We had a salary survey and he is afraid that the salary survey probably is not relevant anymore because inflation has exploded beyond that and it is not just salaries, it is the "stuff' we buy. It is goods and services and we are going to see that through our entire budget. We are going to have to be very responsible and judicious with respect to the ARPA money. We have a flood of federal dollars, which is feeding inflation but at the same time, we do have this one-time benefit. We are going to address broadband. We are going to address water and sewer expansion. We are going to address stormwater. We are going to buy fire engines, ambulances and garbage trucks. People may laugh and wonder how does a garbage truck fit into public safety. Let's not pick up garbage for a couple of weeks and see what that will be like. One big issue we have on our agenda, which we will begin talking about later this afternoon with the school board and the citizens committee is what to do for career and technical education, which is something that should have been addressed 22-24 years ago. It wasn't and it has been delayed and deferred. In his opinion, it is critical now, not only,for public education but also for economic development. If we don't have a skilled, trained workforce, it will be impossible businesses to locate here. It will be impossible to have our existing businesses expand and he read someplace that the Roanoke County's unemployment rate is 2.2%. He does not know where you find the workers, but at least if we have a Career and Technical Education Program, we will get some workers there. He thanked Supervisor Peters, who has had a tough year, but his leadership has been excellent and if you remember his speech at the State of the County, he outlined all of the things we have accomplished and he knows we will, working together, accomplish a lot of good things in 2022. He went back and looked. Before the pandemic began, February 1, 2020, we had a retreat where we listed the goals and objectives of what we wanted to accomplish in Roanoke County. He thinks we have accomplished many of them. We focused on the building and development permit review process that Supervisor Radford talked a lot about. Solid waste transportation with RVRA, we have accomplished that. We looked at employee engagement and compensation and anew pay plan. We accomplished that. It may be behind now, but still we accomplished it. We directed our staff to put together an economic development strategic plan. We have done that. We have directed staff to work on our comp plan and our zoning ordinance; we are working on that. We have not achieved.it, but we are close. Finally, we also directed staff to: develop a multi-year operating budget to have a better economic forecasting process. We are in the middle of that. He thinks we have accomplished a lot of our goals. We have an excellent staff. He knows they have been highly stressed over the past couple of years; and he appreciates them for all their hard work, but he also wanted to indicate that it is easy to January 11 , 2022 1 3 criticize government, but if you look back in terms of what we said we were going to, he thinks we have done that. He truly believes we will accomplish the same thing this year. At 3:46 p.m., Supervisor Mahoney moved to go into closed meeting following the work sessions pursuant to the Code of Virginia Section 2.2-3711 A 3 — Discussion or consideration of the disposition of publicly held real property, where discussion in an open meeting would adversely affect the bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the public body. Specifically, the Board will consider the acquisition of potential properties throughout the County for school purposes. The motion was seconded by Supervisor Peters and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Radford, Mahoney NAYS: None The closed session was held from 5:36 p.m. until 6:55 p.m. At 3:47 p.m. Chairman Mahoney recessed to the third floor for work session and closed session. IN RE: WORK SESSIONS 1. Work session to review with the Board of Supervisors Projects and Funding Sources for the Proposed Fiscal Year 2023 - 2032 Capital Improvement Program (CIP) (Laurie Gearheart, Director of Finance and Management Services) Mr. O'Donnell provided overview and turned the meeting over to Laurie Gearheart who started the PowerPoint presentation; Doug Blount reviewed the Public Service Center. Supervisor Mahoney questioned with respect to Kessler Mill, if we sold the property would we still need access with Mr. Blount responding in the affirmative. Supervisor Mahoney then asked is there a market for what is left; it tends to have a flooding problem with Mr. Blount responding it does and does not think there is a market for it. Supervisor Mahoney asked what else can we do with it. Mr. O'Donnell responding we could raise the building and put a soccer field in. Mr. Blount responded that is one option that has been proposed and the other would be to turn it into open space. Ms. Loope, Director of Economic Development, would need to weigh in to see if there is some type of positive economic development option. 14 January 11 , 2022 Supervisor North asked with regard to the fire station replacement of 12/1, can you explain how you got that number. Mr. Blount responded it is a number that was plugged in, we have not done any preliminary engineering on it. As they get closer to the project, they will sit down and do cost estimates. Deputy Chief Toby Martin outlined the need to move forward with a new station based on data analysis, Read Mountain only reaching 70% of the time and an 18.5% increase in calls. Supervisor North stated the price tag is $6.825 Million, does that incorporate the estimated cost of the site. Deputy Chief Martin responded in the negative, stating we have funds in this budget year to cover that. Supervisor Peters stated this station will not be considered a core station and he has a hard time spending more dollars just so an ambulance can just drive through. He does not understand why we cannot have two ambulances back to back versus a drive through. When he looks at this station, it is not going to be able to expand on the footprint because the property we're looking at, I don't see that station becoming any kind of a core station. We know that there's going to be other needs at other stations as Mr. North has alluded to. In Hollins there was even talk at one time about splitting Hollins up and having two stations for that one. So I guess I mean, let me say it this way, I'm not opposed to it, I have a little bit of heartburn with it given the other needs. He added he also has concerns with future capital needs and the fact we haven't really determined what that'll be when we know the needs of fire stations alone throughout Roanoke County, whether you take a place like Mount Pleasant, where it's still the old metal buildings and we can go on through it mean, so I have a hard time just saying future projects when we know those are issues that have continued to be on the back burner for a number of years. Our numbers grew by 5% in the last census data, if that continues, we're going to need other stations, that's a fact.. There are a couple things he has a little bit of concern of about as we're looking, as you alluded to long term. Do we put three bays here? Do we use that money to help renovate something else? Because we do have other stations that are in need of repair and replacement. Supervisor North responded to Supervisor Peters by stating, our area of Roanoke. County has relied on secondary fire service for the last 30 years. With the population growth, we need that ambulance there and where is an ambulance going to go to in that third bay, if we don't have a third bay, where are you going to station that ambulance? Supervisor Peters responding they will be back to back. Supervisor Peters stated there needs to be a facilities study for public safety as we get more and more populated. Supervisor Mahoney commented it's hard to swallow an additional 2 million, if you look at our bottom line number going out through , 2032, that's 106 million and that's enough to choke all of us. While he would rather build a three-bay facility, January 11 , 2022 15 because Thursday night we're going to begin a community process. He knows we are looking at making some substantial changes to comp plan in zoning on the Rt. 460 corridor, I believe we will do that. I don't know if we'll do it this year or next year, but we're going to do that. Next, when looking at slide 8 comparing the courthouse HVAC at $2.35 million versus HVAC for this building at $1.5 Million, where does this number come from? He does not know what the square footage is between the courthouse and this building but there seems to be a gross discrepancy in that number. Mr. George Assaid, Capital Projects Administrator, stated the courthouse, the $2.5 million was an estimate for the replacement of the HVAC. Since that time, we have worked with Thompson and Litton on a full mechanical systems assessment for the court house and their estimate of an in-kind replacement that is there is $5 million. Supervisor North stated he would like the Board to consider additional funding from 12-12-12 to 15-15-15. Supervisor Mahoney stated he would like to know how much can we get done with ARPA funds. The work session was held from 3:59 p.m. until 5:00 p.m. 2. Joint work session with Roanoke County School Board and the Career and Technical Advisory (CTE) Committee (P. Jason Peters, Supervisor, Vinton Magisterial District) Supervisor Mahoney provided introduction. Supervisor Peters and Supervisor North provided comments. The roll call was taken by the School Board. Mr. Altizer, Chairman of the CTE committee provided PowerPoint presentation. Peter Lubeck, County Attorney provided overview for FOIA and the closed session. The work session was held from 5:15 p.m. until 5:36 p.m. 16 January 11 , 2022 IN RE: ADJOURNMENT Chairman Mahoney adjourned the meeting at 6:56 p.m. Sub 'tted by: Approved by: {5-ciALV) NV1‘ 1 ‘: orah C. J ck Paul M. Mahoney Chief Deputy Cler c to the Board Chairman