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Roanoke County Administration Center
5204 Bernard Drive
Roanoke, Virginia 24018
The Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia met this day at the
Roanoke County Administration Center, this being the second regularly scheduled
meeting of the month of October 2022. Audio and video recordings of this meeting will
be held on file for a minimum of five (5) years in the office of the Clerk to the Board of
Supervisors.
IN RE: OPENING CEREMONIES
Before the meeting was called to order, Pastor Josh Kestner of Christian
Life International Church provided an invocation. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited
by all present:
IN RE: CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Mahoney called the meeting to order at 3:02 p.m. The roll call
was taken.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Paul M. Mahoney; Supervisors Martha.B. Hooker,
Phil C. North and P. Jason Peters
MEMBERS ABSENT: Supervisor David F. Radford
STAFF PRESENT: Richard L. Caywood, County Administrator; Rebecca
Owens, Deputy County Administrator; Doug Blount,
Assistant County Administrator, Peter S. Lubeck, County
Attorney; Amy Whittaker, Public Information Officer and
Deborah C. Jacks, Chief Deputy Clerk to the Board
IN RE: REQUESTS TO POSTPONE, ADD TO, OR CHANGE THE ORDER OF
AGENDA ITEMS
County Attorney, Peter Lubeck requested the Board remove item E.3 -
The petition of First Four Petroleum Group, LLC to obtain a special use permit for
equipment sales and rental (storage container yard) on approximately 14.82 acres on
land zoned C-2S, High Intensity Commercial, located at 4855.Hollins Road, Hollins
Magisterial District as the petitioner withdrew their petition. There were no objections.
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IN RE: PROCLAMATIONS, RESOLUTIONS, RECOGNITIONS AND AWARDS
1. Proclamation declaring October 22-31, 2022, as Red Ribbon Week
in the County of Roanoke (Adam T. Neal, Director, Roanoke Area
Youth Substance Abuse Coalition)
Proclamation was read by the Clerk.
2. Resolution expressing the appreciation of the Board of Supervisors of
Roanoke County to Rose Marie Guzi, Library Assistant, upon her
retirement after thirty-two (32) years of service (Jim Blanton, Director
of Library Services)
Mr. Blanton outlined the request. Resolution was read by the Clerk.
RESOLUTION 102522-1 EXPRESSING THE APPRECIATION OF
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF ROANOKE COUNTY TO
ROSE MARIE GUZI, LIBRARY ASSISTANT, UPON HER
RETIREMENT AFTER THIRTY-TWO (32) YEARS OF SERVICE
WHEREAS, Rose Marie Guzi was employed by Roanoke County on September
17, 1990; and
WHEREAS, Ms. Guzi retired on September 30, 2022, after thirty-two (32) years
of devoted, faithful and expert service to Roanoke County; and
WHEREAS, Ms. Guzi, through her employment with Roanoke County, has been
instrumental in improving the quality of life and providing services to the citizens of
Roanoke County; and
WHEREAS, throughout Ms. Guzi's tenure with Roanoke County, she saw many
technology changes at the library from using a paper card catalog to going digital early
in her career. She helped the library prepare to go fully automated by assisting in
barcoding items throughout the system. Over the years, she learned and adapted to
many new library services, including learning about Pepper, the humanoid robot, and
other technology offerings. Ms. Guzi participated in patron outreach to retirement
communities and brought Bi-Folkal kits and memory cards to engage patrons in these
communities. Ms. Guzi shared book reviews, provided large-print materials, and chatted
with the residents during her visits. Ms. Guzi also brought her passion for the theatre to
the library by performing countless roles in Mystery Nights. Ms. Guzi worked the service
desk at the original 419 Library, South County Library, and later at the Vinton Library.
When Ms. Guzi transferred to the Vinton Library in 2019 some of her patrons from
South County followed her and became loyal patrons of the Vinton Library. Ms. Guzi
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impacted the community with her smiling face, customer service skills, and by assisting
everyone that came through the doors.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Supervisors of
Roanoke County expresses its deepest appreciation and the appreciation of the citizens
of Roanoke County to ROSE MARIE GUZI for thirty-two (32) years of capable, loyal
and dedicated service to Roanoke County; and
FURTHER, the Board of Supervisors does express its best wishes for a happy
and productive retirement.
On motion of Supervisor Peters to adopt the resolution, seconded by Supervisor
North and carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Mahoney
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Supervisor Radford
IN RE: BRIEFINGS
1. Briefing to introduce Megan Baker, Economic Development
Director, to the Board of Supervisors (Doug Blount, Assistant
County Administrator)
Ms. Baker was introduced.
IN RE: REQUEST FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND FIRST READING OF
REZONING ORDINANCES - CONSENT AGENDA
1. The petition of Neil Aneja to obtain a special use permit to operate
a short-term rental on approximately 0.30 acre on land zoned R-1,
Low Density Residential, located at 2776 White Pelican Lane,
Cave Spring Magisterial District
Supervisor Peters' motion to approve the first reading and set the second
reading and public hearing for November 9, 2022, was seconded by Supervisor North
and approved by the following vote:
AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, Radford, Mahoney
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Supervisor Radford
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2. The petition of Barnett Properties, LLC, to rezone approximately
9.38 acres from R-3C, Medium Density Multi-Family Residential
District with conditions, R-1, Low Density Residential District, I-
1C, Low Intensity Industrial District with conditions, C-2C, High
Intensity Commercial District with conditions, and C-1, Low
Intensity Commercial District, to C-2, High Intensity Commercial
District, for retail sales located in the 4400 block of Brambleton
Avenue including 4449 and 4457 Brambleton Avenue, and the
4500 and 4600 blocks of Old Cave Spring Road, Windsor Hills
Magisterial District
Supervisor North's motion to approve the first reading and set the second
reading and public hearing for November 9, 2022, was seconded .by Supervisor Hooker
and approved by the following vote:
AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Mahoney
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Supervisor Radford
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IN RE: PUBLIC HEARING
1. Public Hearing to receive comments on the proposals submitted
for the construction of a fire station at 1465 Mexico Way, NE in the
City of Roanoke (Tax Id: 7110128) (Peter S. Lubeck, County
Attorney)
Mr. Lubeck outlined the request. Chairman Mahoney inquired as to how
the public was notified with Mr. Lubeck advising the Roanoke Times.
Chairman Mahoney opened and closed the public hearing with no citizens
to speak on this item.
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IN RE: PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES
1. Ordinance Amending . Chapter 2 (Administration), Article V
(County Board Organization and Procedures), Section 2-113
(Order of business), deleting the separate consent agenda. for
requests for public hearings and first reading of rezoning
ordinances (Peter S. Lubeck, County Attorney)
Mr. Lubeck advised there were no changes since the first reading held on
October 11, 2022.
Supervisor Peters stated he has a little bit of heartburn
with this. He does not mind giving up one of the readings; we receiving all the
information. However, some of these things are issues that citizens would like to know.
He understands the delay, but give the Board a first reading., There is no public
process. Mr. Lubeck explained today's matter is specifically in regards to rezoning
matters. Mr. Lubeck added the item could also be pulled off the Consent Agenda is so
desired by the Board member. Supervisor Peters noted his only concern is that we still
live in an area where not everyone is computer savvy, and they may want to just, like I
said, one of the two readings. He is not saying both of them need to be public as we've
done previously, but I just think maybe one of them, maybe it's the first one where
you've given a snapshot and I guess in the FEMA case that probably, Mr. Moneir would
give a snapshot of what was taking place and why we did apply for that grant, and then
we put the second ordinance in the consent agenda barring there's no questions or
anything. That's the only, I also believe in making things as fluid as possible.
Supervisor North stated one last comment. Newspapers across the
country, there's two and three that fail every day and go out of business. He is not
saying that this newspaper that serves us and the region is going to do that one day but,
maybe we should be thinking about other ways to get these things out. Social media,
well not everybody subscribes to it, but even he looks at it every day, share pictures and
so forth and so on but, everyone and people even older than he am are using Facebook
and other social media as a medium to communicate. Maybe we need to think a little bit
about that internally going forward, because one day there may not be event in
Messenger. There may one day there may not be a Roanoke Times. And in fact, even
Roanoke Times has got a big movement, I guess, to online readership. He added that
he thinks that the time's coming where we maybe have fewer newspapers, and we can't
rely on the same old method.
Supervisor Mahoney stated that Mr. Peters raises some valid points and
he apologized to him and to the other Board members. When he met with the county
attorney, he was trying to come up with procedures that would simplify the process. At
least in my experience, many of the items that we vote on first reading, that there's
never any debate or discussion. There's never a negative vote, and so he was hoping
that maybe if we could move that to the consent agenda with the idea that if there were
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an issue, we can take any item that's on the consent agenda under our procedures and
pull it off and discuss it. But Mr. Peters has a good point that when we would have staff
stand up at the podium and make a presentation that would provide a greater
opportunity for citizen communication so that the citizens would have a better idea of
what we're dealing with. To that extent, would the board want to defer this matter and
think about it some more, or is it the pleasure of the board to proceed.
Supervisor Peters advised he felt it was okay to proceed.
Chairman Mahoney opened and closed the public hearing with no citizens
to speak on this agenda item.
ORDINANCE 102522-2 AMENDING CHAPTER 2
(ADMINISTRATION), ARTICLE V (COUNTY BOARD
ORGANIZATION AND PROCEDURES), SECTION 2-113 (ORDER
OF BUSINESS), DELETING THE SEPARATE CONSENT
AGENDA FOR REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND
FIRST READING OF REZONING ORDINANCES
WHEREAS, Section 2-113 of the Roanoke County Code sets forth the "order of
business" for Board of Supervisor meetings, by setting forth the sequence of business
matters; and
WHEREAS, Section 2-113 designates two separate "consent agendas": one for
requests for rezoning matters and one for all other matters; and
WHEREAS, it has been proposed, for the sake of efficiency, that the separate
consent agenda for rezoning matters be deleted from the order of business;
accordingly, all consent agenda matters (including rezoning matters) may be addressed
together; and
WHEREAS, the first reading of this matter was held on October 11, 2022, and
the second reading and public hearing were held on October 25, 2022.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke
County, as follows,
1. That Chapter 2 (Administration), Article V (County Board Organization and
Procedures), Section 2-113 (Order of business), is hereby amended to delete
the business item of"Request for public hearings and first reading of rezoning
ordinance-consent agenda"; all other items of business shall remain
unchanged.
2. That this amendment shall be effective immediately.
On motion of Supervisor Peters to adopt the resolution, seconded by Supervisor
Hooker and carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Mahoney
NAYS: None
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ABSENT: Supervisor Radford
2. The petition of the Gallery at South Peak, LLC, to rezone
approximately 10.83 acres from C-2C (High Intensity Commercial
District with conditions) and R-4C (High Density . Multi-Family
Residential District with conditions) to R-4C (High Density Multi-
Family Residential with amended conditions), to construct 260
apartments located in the 5000 block of The Peaks Drive, Cave
Spring Magisterial District (Philip Thompson, Director of
Planning)
Mr. Thompson provided a PowerPoint presentation and outlined the
request for petition.
Supervisor North asked if this was where we considered storage units with
Mr. Thompson responding in the negative add that was below this area.
Supervisor Peters asked if this is where the condos were. Mr. Thompson
responded if you went back to those condos, yes. So, it's taking portions of that condo
project and it's taking part of the original South Peak that I think they showed on that
concept plan as office. That would've been off of South Peak Boulevard or wherever.
That project, so it's both the office space that was the C2C and then the portions of the
condo project make up this property. So, two previous actions but they're trying to make
it all just multifamily residential.
Supervisor Peters then inquired about any fire constraints with Mr.
Thompson advising that's something they'll have to work through in the site review
process.
Supervisor Mahoney asked for clarification on two points. First, did the
application before us include revoking all of the previous conditions with Mr. Thompson
responding in the affirmative stated only on the 10.3 acres. Secondly, Supervisor
Mahoney referenced page 127 of the Board packet and the VDOT comment and the
last sentence indicates that Roanoke County maintains the roadways in this area and
should be consulted for improvements required due the impacts associated with any
development of this property. He did not think that Roanoke County maintained roads.
Mr. Thompson responded it is not a County maintained road. It might be the CDA or the
actual developers that are doing the property. Will it dissolve, and if so, what happens to
the road network at that time? Because he is not sure those roads were built to specs.
Mr. Thompson responded they're not, and again, we can verify this. It's my
understanding that the CDA is essentially just a financing vehicle that lays over top of
what's otherwise a typical private development. So just like any other apartment
complex, or in this case, you've got some mixed uses that the owner of that would be
responsible for the maintenance of the infrastructure including the road.
Supervisor Mahoney stated as a practical matter it would be no different
than a private road subdivision. And back in the good old days, Roanoke County had a
whole lot of private road subdivisions. I think they still exist today. So normally it is the
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responsibility of the people who live there and typically they have a road maintenance
agreement or things of that nature to address that.
Supervisor Peters stated he is looking at 260 apartments and then the
wear and tear on those roads. That's the concern that I don't want that to be glaring us
in the face one day or a future board.
Mr. Thompson advised he would let the petitioner speak to that. Also, we
did develop private road standards for planned districts and for situations like this, and
the difference between our private road standards and VDOT standards is the
construction and how they're constructed is the same. It's really the vertical and
horizontal alignment issues that you deal with on private roads, because there's not
going to be VDOT standards regarding that.
The petitioner, Dan Lamay and his attorney, Max Wiegard provided
a PowerPoint presentation.
Supervisor Mahoney commented this is a challenging sit, looking at the
right-hand side of the concept plan you showed there it is very steep. It will be a
challenge if this is approved to fit that in there. I kind of wonder if a landscape buffer,
and I'm looking to Mr. Thompson, because of that grade change it'd be kind of silly to
put some bushes and trees. Because if he is in the condos, I would be looking over the
bushes and trees anyway. That would be a very challenging process for that site
concept plan and site development review to accomplish that.
Mr. Lamay explained that actually sits on the upper end of the site at this
point. It's relatively flat at that elevation, which is in closest. So, we're not talking about
going down the slope from the overlook. It's starting at the overlook. So, we're working
south back towards the parking lot. It's a little atypical in the sense that the land that
we're proposing, the overlook is wholly contained on the 10.8 acres, but we're trying to
allow the condo owners the exclusive use of that overlook and the hope is that the
buffer, while it would be entirely on our property, would provide that level of exclusivity
to them so that they can continue to use the overlook. Our initial thought is that our
residents are probably not likely to go over there anyway. We are proposing a fourth
level rooftop amenity that would face east, that sort of leg that sticks the furthest down
the page of the building and the fourth level of that would have a rooftop amenity where
we're talking about community gathering space and an indoor-outdoor component as
well. So that's our plan is to provide the same level of impact as the overlook would, but
keep it within our building. If that makes sense.
Chairman Mahoney opened the public hearing with the following citizens
to speak:
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Ron Reese of 5458 The Peaks Drive stated, "I have seven brief points to
make, some of which have been alluded to. 5400 The Peaks Drive is 32 units and
indoor parking for 50 vehicles with 25 outdoor visitor parking spaces. Most of the offices
in 5400 were told a few buildings of similar size were planned on the adjacent vacant
land. The proposed single gallery structure is more than seven times the size of the
existing buildings. Point two, the gallery would erect massive retaining walls three tiers
high on the main entrance road. The proposed project will eventually build on or pave
over almost the entirety of vacant land between 5400 and South Peak Boulevard. It's
about 10 acres. This will cause excessively massive runoffs and heavy rains. We had
eight inches near there one day last month. Some of the thunderstorms can deliver
several inches of rain per hour. Such storms will likely overtax the existing storm drains
and endanger the proposed walls and other walls all over South Peak. Point three, the
Peaks Drive to 5400 is only 24 feet wide. It has no sidewalks and several very sharp
turns. Increasing traffic flows by a factor of 10 along The Peaks Drive will be hazardous,
especially to pedestrians. Mark my words, some pedestrians will be killed up there.
Point four, the outlets to US 220 in the electric road have long light cycles for traffic from
South Peak even now to endure. The lights have very short go cycles for exiting traffic,
allowing only a few cars to pass per cycle. Adding hundreds of more vehicles at these
exit points will cause long delays and traffic backups, especially during rush hours. It is
likely that waits of 30 minutes or more may be involved to exit South Peak with a huge
increase in traffic with development and visions. The location of trash dumps, as we
mentioned, should be down near South Peak Boulevard. The proposed building for the
gallery is four stories high and will block all views for half the residents of the existing
5400 building. The galleries should have no more than three stories, the same as the
existing building. Personally, I suggest the entire project be reenvisioned to exploit the
existing land contours with all access to the parts below South Peak.Boulevard. Fewer
walls will be needed, much less earth moving too. Rather than one massive building
blocking existing views, several smaller buildings should be scattered down the existing
general contours. All units in the gallery could still have views if the access cards were
on the uphill side of the building. In my opinion, the proposed gallery development is a
landscape and architectural abomination. Thank you."
Claude Ravenford — 5480 The Peaks Drive stated, "You're going to laugh
at me. This is going to be my system, okay? What we're doing here is what we
presented to the planning commissioner. Okay. Same thing. Come up a little closer.
Come up a little closer. Okay. What my concern is this curve right here. Okay. This
curve is extremely hazardous curve. Really busy on this one. Okay. Now this curve right
here is extremely hazard. The biggest concern right here is if you're coming down this
hill right here, and you want to make a left turn into here, you can only see from here to
here, 70 feet. Her and I did this this morning, 70 feet. Just like VDOT said, a three-foot
five cone shoot with a laser is 70 feet. Now VDOT says okay, there are two tables. Now,
VODT says that going 20 miles by, you need 225 feet site distance right here for that
car to turn into that area right there. You don't have but 70 feet. So, you don't even have
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near what we need. Also, the other table, VDOT says if a car is going 20 miles per hour,
that this car coming up this hill right here needs 225 feet to stop. Well, he won't be able
to see the object. If he's turning in there, he won't have 225 feet. He's got 70 feet of
distance for that car to come there. So, we got a problem right there. This right here is a
big concern right here. This curve right here. Take it from me as an engineer, you've got
a problem. This is going to be a real busy intersection right here at 5:00. What's going to
happen is between 5:00 and 6:00, you can have people coming home in the [inaudible
01:30:15], up here at this main entrance, it's going to be full, so they're going to come
back down here and come back through here. Most people are going to try to park up
here close to the main entrance. It's going to fill up first. They're going to come back
down, come into this area here, and they're going to have to walk a lot farther. So, they
need to go back to the drawing board to get this fixed. I'm sure this plan's going to be
approved, and that's fine, but you got to fix that. You got to fix that curve. I explained
that to the Planning Commission and two people were concerned about it. They talked
about it, and the head of developers come up here and ask them, what can they do
about it? They said that they don't own that land right there. They can't do nothing about
it. That was their answer. They don't own the land, so they can't correct it. That's not an
answer, that's not correct, that's not good. That's the hazard right there. That needs to
go back and get it fixed. Basically, like I say, I'm not a lawyer, but I would think if the
county approved that right there, if they got a lawsuit or they got a problem, get another
lawyer. But if you only got 70 feet of site distance, if you need a lot more than that to
turn, then I would be looking at just turn this project down. Or at least make them
change that right there. That's all I got to say."
Chairman Mahoney closed the public hearing.
Supervisor Mahoney asked a representative from the applicant to address
the comments that were made by the last citizen. You can maybe clarify some of those
concerns, particularly with respect to the access points to the development and that
curve.
Mr. Lamay stated where we selected that entrance is in the center of the
curve, to where you can look both ways. Where you're measuring, I'm not sure exactly
where he measured to cite this, but you're looking at the car that's sitting at the entrance
wanting to go on to Peaks Drive. From that measurement, you can see 220 plus feet to
the left, and you probably can see closer to 280 feet. Some of the difference is, once we
grade fully on our site, the land that's on, if you're going up Peaks Drive to the right,
right now there's a steep slope there. We're pulling that slope back so that you'll be able
to see farther going up Peaks Drive, and then to the left, because of where the car is
sitting, you can see the 220 feet for a 20 mile an hour design speed. In our opinion, you
do have the adequate sight distance that we measured using our CAD software.
Supervisor North asked Mr. Lamay to point out on the diagram so we can
see it up here, and the folks at home too?
Mr. Lamay added they have been in discussion with Smith/Packett about
obtaining a grading easement across the street from our entrance. We have not
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finalized the terms of that easement at this point, correct me if I'm wrong. Our intention
is to knock down the knoll that exists across the street from our site to better alleviate
some of that concern as part of our development plans. I don't have the specific meets
and bounds of that easement right now. It's not wholly contained on the 10.8 acres that
we have as part of our application right now, but it is being contemplated with our
purchase agreement from the land seller. -
Supervisor Mahoney stated, unfortunately, he has too much history for the
South Peak and the CDA, and it has gone through several iterations in the past. As
counsel for Smith/Packett has pointed out to me on several occasions, circumstances
have changed. Circumstances have changed from the economic conditions that existed
both in 2004, when the county went forward with this project with Smith/Packett, and in
2012 and subsequent. He thinks the County has recognized that change in economic
conditions, and that change is reflected in the 419 Plan. As our staff report shows, there
are some elements with this application that are inconsistent with our 2005
comprehensive plan. At the same time though, he also thinks that we addressed that
when we adopted the 419-Plan. We have specifically looked at wanting to have multi-
family development in this area. We have also, through Mr. North's initiative a couple
years ago, we had a housing study done that identified a need for this kind of housing.
He has some concerns with respect to the private road and the access. Realistically,
there are only two ways in and out. One is by Wendy's at 419, and the other is by
Lowe's at 220. I think we're familiar with some of the plans that the Highway Department
has with changing the signalization on 220 that I'm concerned might make it more
difficult to get out of this development when you're coming by the Lowe's and onto 220.
Despite that, he would like to make a motion to approve this application. This
application, is not consistent with the purpose and intent of the County's adopted
comprehensive plan, with respect to the land use designation of core, but it is consistent
with the county's designation as transition, and part of this property is transition. We do
have a need for housing in our community, and the proposed project is within an area
identified under the 419 Town Center Plan as multi-family in the urban design
framework, and is identified for additional residential development, including multi-family
development. Therefore, it is consistent with the 419 plan. And the 419 plan is a
component of our comprehensive plan. He thinks this does reflect good zoning practice
for this property. It is a challenging piece of property, but I'm intrigued by what the
applicant is going to try to do with this and to address the topographic concerns. But it
looks like they have a plan to address that. I don't believe it will be a detriment to the
community that's in the condos further up on top of the hill.
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He then moved that we approve this rezoning request, as requested. Again, I want to
emphasize that this is removing the existing conditions on only the 10.83883 parcel,
which is subject to this rezoning, and would replace those conditions with the two
conditions that we have in our agenda packet. The one condition being general
conformity with the concept plan that Lumsden has developed, and number two, that
the facades and finishes of the building on the property shall be similar design and
materials that are shown on the renderings that we have in our materials.
Supervisor North stated his only concern is the transportation piece in the
entrance. He knows VDOT doesn't have a say in this formally because this is private
roads, but I would just say to the applicant, double check your work because you don't
want to be wrong and you want to be safe. When it comes to roads coming down that
hillside, there's not a lot of room for error. That's my biggest concern. He does know that
we need the apartments because of the housing study that were done. I thought at one
point these were condominiums last week, and I went back and read the packet again
and it said apartments. These are nice-looking apartments. You don't have to answer
the question, but my question would be, you're going to get a select income to rent
those apartments. It's going to be an expensive apartment. I know that it looks very
enticing, all the amenities that you've shown us in other complexes in the renderings,
that's welcome to that area as well. If the transportation piece can be confirmed,
addressed, reviewed, it's your conscience to do that. I'd certainly think that would go a
long ways to relaxing any fears. Other than that, I think it's a good project.
ORDINANCE 102522-3 REZONING APPROXIMATELY 10.83
ACRES FROM C-2C (HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT
WITH CONDITIONS) AND R-4C (HIGH DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONS) TO R-4C (HIGH
DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH
AMENDED CONDITIONS), IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT 260
APARTMENTS AT THE 5000 BLOCK OF THE PEAKS DRIVE,
CAVE SPRING MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT (TAX MAP NOS:
077.20-01-04.00-0000, 077.20-01-54.00-0000, A PORTION OF
077.20-01-48.01-0000, AND A PORTION OF 077.20-01-52.00-
0000)
WHEREAS, The Gallery at South Peak, LLC is requesting to rezone
approximately 10.83 acres from C-2C (High Intensity Commercial District with
conditions) and R-4C (High Density Multi-Family Residential District with conditions) to
R-4C (High Density Multi-Family Residential District with amended conditions) in order
to construct 260 apartments at the 5000 block of the Peaks Drive; and
WHEREAS, the new 10.83-acre parcel being rezoned is made up of properties
identified as Roanoke County Tax Map Number 077.20-01-04.00-0000, Roanoke
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County Tax Map Number 077.20-01-54.00-0000, a portion of Roanoke County Tax Map
Number 077.20-01-48.01-0000, and a portion of Roanoke County Tax Map Number
077.20-01-52.00-0000; and
WHEREAS, the new 10.38-acre parcel being rezoned is also identified as "NEW
TRACT B-1 B" on the preliminary plat submitted with the rezoning application and
attached hereto as Exhibit A, prepared by Lumsden Associations, P.C., dated February
13, 2022, and titled "PLAT FROM RECORDS SHOWING THE SUBDIVISION AND
COMBINATION OF TAX #077.20-01-52.00-0000 TRACT B-1 PLAT INSTRUMENT
#201211691 CREATING HEREON NEW TRACT B-1A (12.3162 AC.) & TRACT B-1 B
(10.8300 AC.) PROPERTY OF SLATE HILL II, LLC AND TAX #077.20-01-03.00-0000,
#077.20-01-04.00-0000 & #077.20-01-54.00-0000 PLAT INSTRUMENT #201201979
CREATING HEREON NEW TRACT C 3.3120 AC. (144,270 S.F.) AND PROPERTY OF
WOODCLIFF INVESTMENTS, LLC AND TAX #077.20-01-48.01-0000 LOT 2 PLAT
INSTRUMENT #200613943 & #201304283 CREATING HEREON NEW LOT 2-A
6.2537 AC. (272,412 S.F.) PROPERTY OF SOUTH PEAK RESIDENCES, LLC
SITUATED ALONG ELM VIEW ROAD & SOUTH PEAK BLVD. CAVE SPRING
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT ROANOKE COUNTY, VIRGINIA"; and
WHEREAS, each of the properties by which the new 10.38-acre parcel being
rezoned have been rezoned in the past, and have existing conditions attached to them;
and
WHEREAS, it is the intent of the applicant and the intent of the Board that the
existing conditions attached to the 10.38-acre parcel be removed and replaced with the
amended conditions outlined herein and proffered by the applicant; and
WHEREAS, the first reading of this ordinance was held on September 28, 2022,
and the second reading and public hearing were held on October 25, 2022; and
WHEREAS, the Roanoke County Planning Commission_held a public hearing on
this matter on October 4, 2022; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission recommends approval of the petition with
certain amended conditions, as requested; and
WHEREAS, legal notice and advertisement has been provided as required by
law.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke
County, Virginia, as follows:
1. The petition of The Gallery at South Peak, LLC to rezone approximately
10.83 acres from C-2C (High Intensity Commercial District with conditions)
and R-4C (High Density Multi-Family Residential District with conditions)
to R-4C (High Density Multi-Family Residential District with amended
conditions) is approved, with the following proffered amended conditions:
a. The Property shall be developed in general conformity with the
concept development plan prepared by Lumsden Associates, P.C.,
dated August 10, 2022, and revised September 29, 2022,
consisting of Sheets 1 through 2, and attached hereto as Exhibit B
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(Concept Plan — The Gallery at South Peak), subject to such minor
modifications as may be necessitated by final engineering
considerations and such changes as may be required by Roanoke
County during comprehensive site plan review.
b. The facades and finishes of the building on the Property shall be of
similar design and materials as detailed on the rendering prepared
by Winks Snowa Architects, P.C. and dated August 12, 2022,
consisting of Sheets 1 through 4, and attached hereto as Exhibit C.
2. The Board finds that the proposed rezoning of approximately 10.83 acres,
while not consistent with the purpose and intent of the County's adopted
comprehensive plan's future land use designation of"Core,"
a. Is consistent with the purpose and intent of the County's adopted
comprehensive plan's future land use designation of"Transition";
b. Will meet the need for available housing that currently exists in
Roanoke County; and
c. Is within an area identified under the 419 Town Center Plan as
multifamily in the Urban Design Framework and identified for
additional residential development including multifamily
development, and is therefore consistent with the 419 Town Center
Plan which is a component of the County's adopted comprehensive
plan.
3. The Board further finds that the proposed rezoning of approximately
10.83 acres is consistent with good zoning practice, and will not result in
substantial detriment to the community.
4. Any existing conditions on the 10.83-acre parcel which is the subject of
this rezoning are hereby removed and replaced with the amended
conditions identified herein and proffered by the applicant.
5. This ordinance shall be in full force and effect thirty (30) days after its final
passage. The Zoning Administrator is directed to amend the zoning district
map to reflect the change in zoning classification authorized by this
ordinance.
On motion of Supervisor Mahoney to adopt the ordinance, seconded by
Supervisor Peters and carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Mahoney
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Supervisor Radford
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IN RE: CONSENT AGENDA
Mr. Peters asked Mr. Moneir to explain the FEMA grant, which was done.
RESOLUTION 102522-4 APPROVING AND CONCURRING IN
CERTAIN ITEMS SET FORTH ON THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AGENDA FOR THIS DATE DESIGNATED AS
ITEM I- CONSENT AGENDA
BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, as
follows:
That the certain section of the agenda of the Board of Supervisors for October
25, 2022, designated as Item I - Consent Agenda be, and hereby is, approved and
concurred in as to each item separately set forth in said section designated Items 1
through 7 inclusive, as follows:
1. Approval of minutes—June 28, 2022
2. Ordinance accepting and appropriating funds in the amount of$241,531 from
the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Flood Mitigation
Assistance Program, . and authorizing the use of such funds to acquire
property located at 915 Clearwater Avenue, Roanoke, Virginia 24019 (TAX
PARCEL NO. 027.13-06-39.00-0000), Hollins Magisterial District (Second
reading of Ordinance)
3. Ordinance approving a site and ground lease with Seiontec Systems, LLC for
placement of broadband equipment on Crowells Gap Mountain (Second
Reading of Ordinance)
4. Request to accept and allocate funds in the amount of $24,787 from the
Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Grant to the Roanoke County Sheriffs Office
5. Designation of voting delegate to the Virginia Association of Counties (VACo)
Conference to be held November 13-15, 2022
6. Request to accept and allocate grant funds in the amount of $9,600 from the
U.S. Department of Justice's Bulletproof Vest Partnership to the Roanoke
County Sheriffs Office
7. Confirmation of appointment to the Social Services Advisory Commission
On motion of Supervisor Peters to adopt the resolution, seconded by Supervisor
North and carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Mahoney
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Supervisor Radford
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ORDINANCE 102522-4.a ACCEPTING AND APPROPRIATING
FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $241,531 FROM THE FEDERAL
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY (FEMA) FLOOD
MITIGATION ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM, AND
AUTHORIZING THE USE OF SUCH FUNDS TO ACQUIRE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 915 CLEARWATER AVENUE,
ROANOKE, VA 24019 (TAX PARCEL NO. 027.13-06-39.00-0000),
HOLLINS MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT
WHEREAS, the Flood Mitigation Assistance Program is a competitive grant
program that provides funding to states, local communities, federally recognized tribes
and territories for projects that reduce or eliminate the risk of repetitive flood damage to
buildings insured by the National Flood Insurance Program, with recipients chosen by
FEMA based on the applicant's ranking of the project and the eligibility and cost-
effectiveness of the project; and
WHEREAS, two residences in Roanoke County insured under the National Flood
Insurance Program have experienced damages from multiple flooding events and are
classified, by FEMA, as Severe Repetitive Loss ("SRL") properties; and
WHEREAS, Roanoke County's Hazard Mitigation Plan has a goal of eliminating
its SRL properties; and
WHEREAS, the property owner of one of the SRL properties has expressed
interest in voluntarily participating in this FEMA funded program. The property is a
residential property located at 915 Clearwater Avenue, Roanoke, VA 24019 (tax parcel
ID no: 027.13-06-39.00-0000). Accordingly, the County applied for grant funding to
acquire this property; and
WHEREAS, on September 16, 2022, the County's application was approved; the
County received 'a grant from the FEMA Flood Mitigation Assistance Grant Program in
the amount of$241,531. This grant will be used to purchase the property and demolish
and remove the existing flood-prone structure. After demolition the property must be
maintained, by the County, as undeveloped green space in perpetuity; and
WHEREAS, the federal share is 100 percent of the total project costs; no local
funding is required; and
WHEREAS, Section 18.04 of the Roanoke County Charter provides that funds be
appropriated by ordinance; and
WHEREAS, the first reading of this ordinance was held on October 11, 2022, and
the second reading was held on October 25, 2022.
BE IT ORDAINED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, as
follows:
1. That the sum of $241,531 is hereby accepted and appropriated to the
Roanoke County Grant Fund, to be used for the acquisition of the
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residential property located at 915 Clearwater Avenue, Roanoke, VA
24019 (tax parcel ID no: 027.13-06-39.00-0000).
2. The County Administrator, Deputy County Administrator, or Assistant
County Administrator is authorized to execute any documents, including
contracts and deeds of conveyance, in order to effectuate the acquisition
of this property and demolition of the existing structure; such documents
shall be approved as to form by the County Attorney.
On motion of Supervisor Peters to adopt the ordinance, seconded by Supervisor
North and carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Mahoney
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Supervisor Radford
ORDINANCE 102522-4.b AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING A
GROUND LEASE BETWEEN ROANOKE COUNTY AND
SEIONTEC SYSTEMS, LLC ON CROWELLS GAP MOUNTAIN
WHEREAS, Roanoke County ("Lessor" or "County") and Seiontec Systems, LLC
("Seiontec" or "Lessee") wish to enter into an antenna site lease on the County's
telecommunications tower and ground lease in the County's equipment cabinet on
Crowell's Gap Mountain, located more specifically at 37 Degrees -11" —27.0 N. Latitude
and 79 Degrees — 53" — 39.0 W. Longitude. Seiontec shall also be afforded non-
exclusive right of ingress and egress to the Leased Premises for purposes of
maintaining their telecommunications equipment; and
WHEREAS, the addition of Seiontec's equipment will not interfere with the
County's communications equipment; and
WHEREAS, Section 18.04 of the Roanoke County Charter directs that the
acquisition or conveyance of an interest in real estate, including leases, shall be
accomplished by ordinance; the first reading of this ordinance was held on October 11,
2022 and the second reading was held on October 25, 2022.
THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke
County, Virginia, as follows:
1. The 2022 ground lease addendum between Roanoke County and Seiontec
be approved.
2. That the County Administrator or the Deputy County Administrator is hereby
authorized to execute a lease agreement on behalf of the Board of
Supervisors of Roanoke County and to execute such other documents and
take such further actions as are necessary to accomplish this transaction, all
of which shall be upon form and subject to the conditions by the County
Attorney.
3. That this ordinance shall be effective on and from the date of its adoption.
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On motion of Supervisor Peters to adopt the ordinance, seconded by Supervisor
North and carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Mahoney
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Supervisor Radford
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A-102522-3.e
A-102522-3.f
IN RE: REPORTS
Supervisor Mahoney moved to receive and file the following reports. The
motion was seconded by Supervisor Hooker and carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Supervisors Peters, Hooker, North, Mahoney
ABSENT: Supervisor Radford
NAYS: None
1. Unappropriated, Board Contingency and Capital Reserves Report
2. Outstanding Debt Report
3. Comparative Statement of Budgeted and Actual Revenues as of
September 30, 2022
4. Comparative Statement of Budgeted and Actual Expenditures and
Encumbrances as of September 30, 2022
5. Accounts Paid —September 30, 2022
6. Statement of Treasurer's Accountability per Investment and Portfolio
Policy as of September 30, 2022
7. Proclamation signed by the Chairman — October 19, 2022 as Support
your Local Chamber of Commerce Day
IN RE: CITIZEN COMMENTS
William Skaff of 4815 Farmington Place Court stated, "As my thirteen op
eds and four letters published in The Roanoke Times over the past several years
indicate, I am a Constitutional conservative. So much so, in fact, that The Times
appears to have cancelled me. So, anyone who wants to examine my views on current
issues will have to go back to my op ed, 'Why the Left Wants Our Children," appearing
on February 17th of this year. Chairman Mahoney raised an important point last month—
how can a conservative advocate for the regulation of private property that curtails
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property rights? Every conservative needs to think this through carefully, as Mr.
Chairman has, and justify their position. Having called for regulation stopping density
development in Roanoke County—as opposed to Roanoke City, where I believe it
belongs—I too must provide a justification for my position. I hasten to emphasize that
this is not a reply to Chairman Mahoney, whose position, in my opinion, is
perfectly valid. I actually sympathize with Mr. Chairman's libertarian
leaning perspective of property owners maximizing use of their property, that
is, "the highest and best use," in the vernacular. Rather, what follows is simply an
explanation for my own position. John Locke stated that life, liberty, and property are
God-given rights, and Jefferson incorporated these in the Declaration, broadening
property to happiness. They understood property as the fruits of our labors, legally
obtained. They held that we can enjoy this property as long as its use does not infringe
on the rights of others. The right to happiness includes being happy in one's
environment. Real estate differs from other properties in that it is part of a built and
natural environment that we all share and experience. Our mutual happiness depends
on the state of these properties. It is not as if I bought an ugly lamp and put it in my
house, never to be seen by others again. If I do something ugly with my real estate—
such as a building of oppressively massive size—the result inevitably impacts the
community. The right to happiness is inextricably related to the right to property, which
includes location. People choose to live where the ratio between the built and the
natural appeals to them, be it rural, suburban, or urban. To drastically change that ratio,
particularly after they have made that choice, infringes on their right to happiness. As
real estate agents tell us, the most important element of property value is location.
Although they mean monetary value, that value is actually much broader. The right to
happiness of developers who want to make money using property, or owners who want
to profit from their real estate, or community planners who want to make cities, may
infringe on other owners' right to property, and right to happiness,
beyond environment. Projects may prevent others from maximizing the use
of their property, such as blocking useful light and pleasing viewsheds, introducing
disturbing noise throughout the day, or sleep preventing light at nighttime. Additionally,
as.a consequence, monetary value for these properties will be reduced. Thus, from my
perspective, we are justified in zoning that curtails the unlimited use of property by
owners in order to preserve the right to happiness and the right to property of others.
We must balance aesthetics, nature, architectural design,
orderliness, infrastructure, size. Therein lies the hard work. There is no easy answer.
But, for me, it is clear that we have a right to do so, in order to preserve everyone's
rights. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for the depth of the perspective that you have brought
to this issue, and for articulating it."
IN RE: REPORTS AND INQUIRIES OF BOARD MEMBERS
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Supervisor Hooker offered condolences publicly to our fellow Board
member, David Radford, who lost his father earlier this week. A great loss for our
community, a good man, a good friend to many of us, and he will be sorely missed.
Supervisor North stated he too would like to keep the Radford family in all
of our thoughts and prayers. Their father was a great man and had many contributions
to the community, and he was a great golfer. Mr. Radford and he played together in a
golf tournament last year on about the day of his passing this year, and he was
remarkable. We finished fourth in a field of 17 senior golfers, and last Saturday he
played with the Chairman of the school board, Mr. Linden, and we only finished fifth. We
thought we'd only finished seventh, and I looked at Mr. Linden and I said, "We didn't do
good enough for Mr. Radford." So, great man. First class. Additionally, just some
comments, in case I don't get them in the work session. I just want to let everybody
know we're going to go to the work session, we're going to hear what they have to say,
and staffs going to go to work, but we're going to look at different methods to which we
can get money for a CTE facility one day. But there are three things that I don't want us,
any of us within earshot, to forget. School construction grants of 20% are a possibility
once the applications ever come to us from the Board of Education, so that our schools
and Superintendent Nicely can apply. That could amount to a great sum of money. I just
got an email from the Senate Commission on School Construction and Modernization
calling for a meeting December 1st at 1:00, which is probably related to these
applications. We'll see. The second thing, he does not want us to lose sight of workforce
grants because it's part of the Governor's program, and Delegate Head is on the Labor
and Commerce Committee in Richmond and will have an ear to hear from us
concerning workforce grants of some type. Others in the area that serve our community
are able to get funds for many projects. We hope that we can get some funds through
Mr. Delegate Head's efforts. Number three, workforce grants from the EDA, and working
with the Executive Director, Jeremy Holmes, will possibly be a source, and we'll have a
call on that next month. So, good things to hopefully supplement a big project, the
biggest project in the history of Roanoke County.
Supervisor Peters stated he too wanted to share my condolences for the
Radford family. Mr. North, Mr. Caywood and he attended the funeral today, and what a
great tribute to Mr. Radford. He only met him a few times, but he left a lasting
impression. So, my thoughts and prayers are with David and his three sisters, and his
mother and all the family. On another note, begin telling your friends and neighbors,
we're going to have Illuminights starting right after Thanksgiving, so make your plans to
come to the Explore Park in the Vinton District.
Supervisor North added one more piece of news. It's been a busy week,
but I finally reached the epic of adulthood becoming a grandfather Sunday, and I want
to thank my son, Alex, and my daughter-in-law, Caitlin, for giving us a grandchild.
Lance, oh, not Lance, Lane Edward. So, good stuff, good stuff.
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Supervisor Mahoney commented our thoughts and prayers are with the
Radford family. I've known Frank for many years. In my prior life, he was one of the
premier developers in Roanoke County. He was a community leader, and he was a
neighbor of mine, he lived three doors up from me. He will be missed. But we think of
David and his wife and his sisters.
Chairman Mahoney recessed to the third floor for work session at:4:47
p.m.
IN RE: WORK SESSIONS
1. Joint work session with the Roanoke County Board of
Supervisors, Roanoke County Public School Board and the
County of Roanoke Career and Technical Education (CTE)
Advisory Committee (Paul M. Mahoney, Chairman of the Roanoke
County Board of Supervisors)
Roanoke County. Public School Board called their Board to order. CTE
Committee called their Board to order.
Alex Jones, Planner, provided a PowerPoint to provide an overview of the
purpose of the CTE.
Mr. Balzer and Mr. Altizer (CTE Committee) outlined their
recommendation on solar technology. Mr. Balzer then advised their recommendation is
to look at solar options very closely and consider solar applications in the design and
development of the facility.
Mr. Altizer went through the minutes outlined their actions throughout this
process. He stated there is a reoccurring statement to get an independent study from
an independent company on solar.
Supervisor North did he hear correctly that APCO works with 8.8 cents a
kilowatt hour with Mr. Altizer responding it was a negotiated rate at Henrico.
School Board Member Greenway inquired how long do we look at solar to
save $200,000 a year, while building costs are escalating. Do we continue to stretch
that down the road? Or, do we say let's incorporate it as we are starting this project.
Mr. Balzer noted it would be significant savings. Mr. Altizer also noted that it was not
their charge to determine. Mr. Balzer then added he thought that you go ahead and just
decide on the front end that you're going to build the roof system in to accommodate
solar collections, unless you can accommodate it on the ground, and we didn't hear any
support for that, then you have to build that in on the front end and move forward. As an
architect, I tell you, you're going to battle another thing and that is the cost of materials,
especially in roof support structure is a very volatile thing. And I know Mr. Phillips could
ditto that. So, I think the important thing is if you're going to consider it, you've got to get
a third party involved. You got to study it while your architect's designing and working in
parallel. And that's what our committee is saying is we didn't hear any reason not to do
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it. We heard the reasons to do it that were ample enough to say, we recommend that
you consider it. Because to sit there and say you shouldn't consider it because we don't
see the savings, we didn't have enough information to do that.
Gift were distributed to the CTE Committee members for their work on this
committee.
Next, Jason Suhr, Director of Career & Technical Education provided a
PowerPoint presentation on the August 2022 Business Community Meetings feedback
and BCAT Student Survey Results.
Todd Kageals, and Ben Crew of Balzer and Associates did a PowerPoint
presentation on the due diligence report of the proposed site, conceptual site plan and
the cost estimates on 6251 Peters Creek Road.
It was the consensus of the Board to have both boards and staff look and
digest the information and come back with several alternatives to pay for this and how
we move forward. A meeting has been scheduled for December 7, 2023, immediately
following the State of the County address.
A recess from taken from 7:55 p.m. until 8:13 p.m.
Assistant Chief of Police Jimmy Chapman provided an update regarding
School Resource Officer Recruitment.
Supervisor Peters asked if we could hire full-time officer and then delegate
them to SROs. County Administrator, Richard Caywood, explained the grants limit us to
part-time.
School Board member, Tim Greenway, stated this isn't something we can
be talking about now, we should have been having these conversation four or five
months ago. He added he is disappointed that we are trying to work this out now. He
doesn't understand why the sense of urgency is only happening now. His sense of
urgency is we get these people in the schools. He knows the Sheriffs office has gotten
their 8, and understands there is some coordination efforts there, but is disappointed
that we are just starting to figure out what we need to do to get these officers in there.
Chairman Mahoney commented he does not think that is accurate, adding
as soon as the General Assembly ended in June and talked about the grant program we
applied immediately for the grants.
Mr. Greenway asked if we don't get the grant program are we saying we
are not going to do this. Chairman Mahoney stated we have already gotten the grants.
Mr. Greenway responded with all due respect, again, he knows that it's a
tough time to gather folks, but we've got to come up with something and not say, 'Well,
we just couldn't get these guys if something happened." I can sit across from a family
member and say we did everything we could. We tried to do everything we can, but I
can't sit across from a family member and say, "Well, we're still working on it. We're
starting to work on it." We've known about this four or five months ago when we started
stating that we wanted this. I'm not saying it's an easy issue, but my gosh, we're having
conversations on how to get them in there now. We should have done this four or five
months ago.
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Chairman Mahoney responded we are, and we have been doing this. Mr.
Greenway responded there is nothing to show for it except on the Sheriffs side.
Supervisor Peters stated if you can't get somebody to come do the job,
what are you going to do? And here's my take, and Chief, you can correct me if I'm
wrong, but I feel like you've probably got a lot of law enforcement peoples who have
gotten out in the last couple years who went through a bunch of crap before they left law
enforcement and don't want to have anything to do with it again. So I think that we have
continually put forth, I mean, as Mr. Mahoney said, as soon as the grant came out, we
applied for it, we got the grant and we've continually pursued it and tried to find out what
else we can do, and that's why I even asked the question about full-time, if it's easier to
get full-time people, but I never realized we were down 15. I thought last I heard, we
were only down four.
Mr. Greenway then asked with regard to Debbe Adams with the Vinton
Messenger asked us about televising these joint meetings and we could not get it done
today. He feels that for our next joint meeting and future joint meetings should be
televised. Supervisor Mahoney, advised it has never been the practice of the Board of
Supervisors to televise it's work session as it destroys the whole concept of the work
sessions and if we televise work session we do it downstairs. He always felt it was king
of stupid of us sifting on the dais and all you sitting down below us, almost like lesser
individuals and that is not right. Mr. Greenway stated transparency is a big deal and out
constituents deserve to know about these things, like BCAT.
Chairman Mahoney stated he is sure they will know about it, but again,
technically, nothing that occurs here has any meaning until we actually go downstairs
and vote on a specific plan or program. He assumes that's the same thing, true with you
guys. It's been a long time since he attended a school board meeting. If the board wants
to start televising work sessions, he thinks that's a decision that the board can make. He
would oppose it. That's not the intent of a work session.
The work session was held from 5:27 p.m. until 8:55 p.m.
IN RE: ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Mahoney adjourned the meeting at 8:56 p.m.
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