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HomeMy WebLinkAbout9/14/2010 - RegularSeptember 14, 2010 339 Roanoke County Administration Center 5204 Bernard Drive Roanoke, Virginia 24018 The Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia met this day at the Roanoke County Administration Center, this being the second Tuesday and the first regularly scheduled meeting of the month of September 2010. Audio and video recordings of this meeting will be held on file for a minimum of five (5) years in the office of the Clerk to the Board of Supervisors. IN RE: CALL TO ORDER Vice-Chairman Elswick called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice Chairman Eddie "Ed" Elswick, Supervisors Michael W. Altizer, Richard C. Flora, Charlotte A. Moore MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Joseph B. "Butch" Church STAFF PRESENT: B. Clayton Goodman III, County Administrator; Daniel R. O'Donnell, Assistant County Administrator; Diane D. Hyatt, Assistant County Administrator; Paul M. Mahoney, County Attorney; Teresa Hamilton Hall, Director of Public Information; Deborah C. Jacks, Deputy Clerk to the Board IN RE: OPENING CEREMONIES The invocation was given by Pastor Cedric Malone of the Greater Mt. Zion Baptist Church. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited by all present. IN RE: REQUESTS TO POSTPONE, ADD TO, OR CHANGE THE ORDER OF AGENDA ITEMS B. Clayton Goodman III, County Administrator added an additional closed session to discuss or consider the acquisition of real property pursuant to the provisions of Section 2.2-3711(a) (3) of the Code of Virginia, as amended, namely real estate for Parks and Recreation purposes when the discussion in an open meeting would adversely affect the bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the County. There were no objections. IN RE: PROCLAMATIONS, RESOLUTIONS, RECOGNITIONS AND AWARDS 340 September 14, 2010 1. Recognition of music Students visiting Roanoke County from our Sister City Opole, Poland (Teresa Hamilton Hall, Director of Public Information) Certificates of honorary citizenship were presented to Mr. Patryk Grzeiura, Ms. Maria Strzelczyk, Mr. Kamil Labusga and Mr. Wojciech Kopczak from the Frederic Chopin Music School in Opole, Poland in recognition of Roanoke County's continuing Sister City partnership with Opole. Also in attendance was Dr. Kristina Slowikowski, Sister City liaison who gave a brief overview of the students' itinerary and noted that 2010 was the 15t" anniversary of the Sister City partnership with Opole. A brief musical performance was given on the violin by Ms. Strzelczyk. IN RE: NEW BUSINESS 1. Resolution approving a contract with Trane and Equipment Lease Purchase Agreement with Green Campus Partners and to appropriate $1,157,437 (Anne Marie Green, Director of General Services; Rebecca Owens, Director of Finance) Ms. Green advised this new business item was the result of the Board of Supervisors directive to staff to investigate energy performance contracting as a way to save money in utility costs. Ms. Owens outlined the equipment lease purchase agreement and other financial details. Supervisor Moore thanked Ms. Green and Staff for all their hard work that had gone into this project. Vice-Chairman Elswick commented regarding the number of lights burning in the Board Room and advised that the simplest thing to do is turn lights off, turn down water heaters, etc. as conservation is the key. RESOLUTION 091410-1 AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF AN EQUIPMENT LEASE PURCHASE AGREEMENT, EQUIPMENT SCHEDULE, PAYMENT SCHEDULE, AN ESCROW AGREEMENT, AND RELATED INSTRUMENTS, AND DETERMINING OTHER MATTERS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH. WHEREAS, the County of Roanoke desires to obtain certain equipment and furnish services designed to reduce energy consumption and operational costs at various County facilities; and WHEREAS, the County Board has taken the necessary steps, including those relating to any applicable legal bidding requirements, to arrange for the acquisition of the Equipment; and September 14, 2010 341 WHEREAS, the total approximate cost of the project is an amount not to exceed $1,479,875; and WHEREAS, the County of Roanoke will contribute $9,400 from capital funds and use the Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grant in the amount of $322,438 towards the project cost; and WHEREAS, the County Board proposes to enter into the Equipment Lease Purchase Agreement with Green Campus Partners and the Escrow Agreement with the Escrow Agent for the remaining funds in the amount of $1,148,037; and WHEREAS, the funds made available under the Lease will be deposited with Deutsche Bank National Trust Company (the "Escrow Agent") pursuant to an Escrow Agreement between the County Board and the Escrow Agent (the "Escrow Agreement") and will be applied to the acquisition of the Equipment in accordance with said Escrow Agreement; and WHEREAS the County equipment lease purchase agreement will close on September 17, 2010; and WHEREAS this lease purchase agreement is financed for 10 years at a rate of 3.99% with no closing costs, and the first principal and interest payment due in arrears annually with the first payment due in September 2011. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE ROANOKE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AS FOLLOWS: Section 1. It is hereby found and determined that the terms of the Lease and the Escrow Agreement (collectively, the "Financing Documents") are in the best interests of the County for the acquisition of the Equipment. Section 2. The Financing Documents and the acquisition and financing of the Equipment under the terms and conditions as described in the Financing Documents are hereby approved. The County Administrator or his designee of the County of Roanoke shall have power to execute contracts on behalf of the County and hereby is, authorized to execute, acknowledge and deliver the Financing Documents with any changes, insertions and omissions therein as may be approved by the officers who execute the Financing Documents, such approval to be conclusively evidenced by such execution and delivery of the Financing Documents. The County Administrator of the County of Roanoke shall have power to do so be, hereby is, authorized to affix the official seal of County of Roanoke to the Financing Documents and attest the same. Section 3. The proper officers of the County are authorized and directed to execute and deliver any and all papers, instruments, opinions, certificates, affidavits and other documents and to do or cause to be done any and all other acts and things necessary or proper for carrying out this resolution and the Financing Documents. On motion of Supervisor Moore to adopt the resolution, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Altizer, Flora, Moore, Elswick NAYS: None 342 September 14, 2010 ABSENT: Supervisor Church 2. Request to approve revisions to the Roanoke County Procurement Policy Manual (Rob Light, Purchasing Manager) A-091410-2 There was no discussion. Vice-Chairman Elswick moved to approve the request. A copy of the revised Procurement Policy Manual is on file for inspection in the office of the Clerk to the Board of Supervisors. The motion carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Altizer, Flora, Moore, Elswick NAYS: None ABSENT: Supervisor Church IN RE: SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES 1. Ordinance amending Ordinance 081010-3 approving a lease agreement for the Tinker Mountain Tower Site (Paul M. Mahoney, County Attorney) Mr. Mahoney advised that this was the second reading of this ordinance and there were no changes from the first meeting. ORDINANCE 091410-3 AMENDING ORDINANCE 081010-3 APPROVING A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THE TINKER MOUNTAIN TOWER SITE WHEREAS, the County of Roanoke rents a site located on Tinker Mountain in the County of Botetourt, Virginia, on property previously owned by Lee C. Hartman, Jr., for the purpose of maintaining towers, antennae and equipment buildings for the operation of its public safety radio communications systems, said property being designated upon the Botetourt County Land Records as Tax Map No. 106-45; and WHEREAS, the County of Roanoke has leased this site for over a decade to provide E911 coverage to critical areas and to provide back-up capabilities for the public safety system; and WHEREAS, Mr. Hartman recently died and John W. Brandemuehl is the Executor of his estate and the primary beneficiary under his will; and WHEREAS, the most recent lease term has expired and staff has negotiated with John W. Brandemuehl for a new lease of this site; and WHEREAS, on August 10, 2010, the Board adopted Ordinance 081010-3 which approved athree-year lease term for this tower site; however, subsequent negotiations September 14, 2010 343 with Mr. Brandemuehl have resulted in a new five-year lease term. Therefore, Ordinance 081010-3 must be amended to provide for this longer lease term. WHEREAS, the provisions of Section 18.04 of the Charter of Roanoke County require that the acquisition of any interest in real estate, including the lease of real property, shall be accomplished by ordinance; the first reading of this ordinance was held on August 24, 2010, and the second reading of this ordinance was held on September 14, 2010. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, as follows: 1. That the lease of a parcel of land from John W. Brandemuehl, consisting of 0.0363 acre, more or less, as shown on Exhibit A attached hereto, together with the non-exclusive right of ingress, egress and regress from Tinker Top Road (Frontage Road) over the existing gravel access and private driveway to the site, for an initial term effective as of July 1, 2010, through June 30, 2015, at an annual rental of four thousand two hundred fifty-two and 50/100 dollars ($4,252.50), with an increase of five percent (5%) each year in the annual rental rate, is hereby authorized and approved. 2. That the rent payment shall be paid from the E911 Maintenance Account. 3. That the County Administrator or any Assistant County Administrator is authorized to execute this lease on behalf of the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County and to execute such other documents and take such further actions as are necessary to accomplish this transaction, all of which shall be upon form approved by the County Attorney. On motion of Supervisor Elswick to adopt the ordinance, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Altizer, Flora, Moore, Elswick NAYS: None ABSENT: Supervisor Church IN RE: APPOINTMENTS Supervisor Altizer appointed James M. Chewning to the Capital Improvement Program (CIP) Review committee. Vice-Chairman Elswick asked that confirmation of the appointment be placed on the Consent Agenda. There were no objections. IN RE: CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTION 091410-4 APPROVING AND CONCURRING IN CERTAIN ITEMS SET FORTH ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AGENDA FOR THIS DATE DESIGNATED AS ITEM H- CONSENT AGENDA 344 September 14, 2010 BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, as follows: That the certain section of the agenda of the Board of Supervisors for September 14, 2010, designated as Item H -Consent Agenda be, and hereby is, approved and concurred in as to each item separately set forth in said section designated Items 1 through 6 inclusive, as follows: 1. Approval of Minutes -August 10, 2010; August 24, 2010 2. Request to accept and appropriate funding for award number 2010-DJ-BX- 1351 awarded under the fiscal year 2010-2011 Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant (JAG) Program Local Solicitation in the amount of $27, 929 3. Request to accept and appropriate funds in the amount of $36,235.04 to the Roanoke County Public Schools 4. Request to accept and appropriate funds in the amount of $65,000 for a matching grant from the Virginia Department of Health 5. Confirmation of Director of the Health Department's designee and alternate to the Community Policy and Management Team (CPMT) 6. Confirmation of appointment to the Capital Improvement Program (CIP) Review Committee and the Grievance Panel On motion of Supervisor Altizer to adopt the resolution, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Altizer, Flora, Moore, Elswick NAYS: None ABSENT: Supervisor Church IN RE: REQUESTS FOR WORK SESSIONS Vice-Chairman Elswick requested a work session to take a new look at the recommendations suggested in the 1995 Vision Report on what Roanoke County should look like in 2010, which was compiled by citizens, specifically regarding ridge top protection and protection of territories surrounding the Blue Ridge Parkway. IN RE: REPORTS Supervisor Flora moved to receive and file the following reports. The motion carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Altizer, Flora, Moore, Elswick NAYS: None ABSENT: Supervisor Church September 14, 2010 345 1. General Fund Unappropriated Balance 2. Capital Reserves 3. Reserve for Board Contingency IN RE: REPORTS AND INQUIRIES OF BOARD MEMBERS Supervisor Moore thanked all Animal Control officers, advising that she did not realize until the past two weeks how dangerous their job really is. Ms. Moore explained they have been able to capture, all over the county, several rabid animals, stray cats, skunks, fox, ground hogs, raccoons, all types of animals and she stated she really did not realize how important their job is and how they can put themselves in danger. Ms. Moore thanked the officers for doing such a great job. IN RE: CLOSED MEETING At 3:29 p.m., Vice-Chairman Elswick moved to go into closed meeting following the work sessions pursuant to the Code of Virginia Section 2.2-3711(A)(1): Personnel, namely discussion concerning appointments to the Community Policy and Management Team (CPMT); Section 2.2-3711(A)(1): To discuss and consider the employment, assignment, appointment and performance of specific public officers, appointees or employees -Clerk to the Board of Supervisors; and Section 2.2- 3711(A)(3) namely real estate for Parks and Recreation purposes where the discussion in an open meeting would adversely affect the bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the County. The motion carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Altizer, Flora, Moore, Elswick NAYS: None ABSENT: Supervisor Church The closed meeting was held from 5:00 p.m. until 5:21 p.m. At 3:30 p.m. Vice-Chairman Elswick recessed to the 4t" floor for work session and closed meeting. IN RE: WORK SESSIONS 1. Work session with the Fire/Rescue Department to review the Department of Homeland Security, Staffing for Adequate Fire and 346 September 14, 2010 Emergency Response (SAFER) Grant Program (Richard E. Burch, Jr., Chief of Fire and Rescue) The work session was held from 3:45 p.m. until 4:35 p.m. County staff present for this meeting were Richard E. Burch, Chief of Fire and Rescue; Steve Simon, Division Chief for Fire and Rescue; Rebecca Owens, Director of Finance; Laurie Gearhart, Assistant Director of Finance; Anne Marie Green, Director of General Services; Diane Hyatt, Assistant County Administrator; Daniel R. O'Donnell, Assistant County Administrator; B. Clayton Goodman III, County Administrator, Teresa Hamilton Hall, Director of Public Information; Paul Mahoney; County Attorney; Billy Driver, Director of Real Estate Assessment; and Deborah C. Jacks; Deputy Clerk to the Board of Supervisors. Also in attendance was Cody Lowe, reporter for the Roanoke Times. Chief Burch gave a PowerPoint presentation reviewing the SAFER Grant, and outlining that Fire and Rescue would be applying for the grant under the item regarding hiring new positions. A copy of the presentation is on file for inspection in the office of the Clerk to the Board of Supervisors. Mr. Goodman first commended Chief Burch for the great job he has done putting together this presentation. He pointed out the issue that Roanoke County would have seed money for the first year years if the grant was obtained, but in the third year and beyond the County will need to pick up approximately $328,000. Mr. Goodman stated his concern that revenues would not be there to cover this. He outlined that the historical 5-7 percent increase in revenue is no longer occurring and is concerned that Roanoke County revenue growth will not sustain this program. Additionally, Mr. Goodman pointed out that the Commonwealth of Virginia has decreased funding, which the County has been forced to pick up. Also, the Board of Supervisors has provided Roanoke County Schools with additional funding. Mr. Goodman reiterated the Board has stated no tax increases due to the economy and County staff is working within these parameters, however, based on the trend of reduction in revenues programs will need to be cut or reduced. Mr. Goodman detailed that the Fire Department does a great job and wanted Chief Burch to be able to present his 5-year staffing plan to the Board of Supervisors; however Mr. Goodman reiterated that Roanoke County cannot bank on hope. He advised that Mt. Pleasant is a priority and has been for some time and Chief Burch is trying to resolve in a proactive manner. Mr. Goodman also indicated that even though times are tight, the Directors, Department Heads and employees have all done an outstanding job in reducing expenditures. Supervisor Flora stated that it is his opinion that being against Public Safety is like being against motherhood and apple pie and there is no such thing as a "free lunch." However, at some point, the County will have to fund these personnel or let personnel go, which is the last thing that the Board wants to do. He advised that the staffing plan presented is great, but it appears to be missing the information regarding September 14, 2010 347 how this increase in staff will be paid for after the second year. Supervisor Flora advised that he feels that within the next ten years there will no longer be volunteers, not because the citizens do not care or the County is mistreating them. He advised that individuals today are just too busy; volunteering is down across the Board. Supervisor Flora reiterated that it is incumbent upon the Fire Department to figure out how to pay for this increase in personnel. Supervisor Flora stated that funds should be set aside and continue our "belt tightening". Supervisor Altizer indicated that he was in agreement with Mr. Flora as he brought up many good points. He stated that he felt uneasy taking one-time funds for ongoing expenses further down the road and was in agreement with Mr. Goodman about the uncertainty of future revenue. Supervisor Altizer asked how does the County not find a way to accomplish this objective and that police, fire and rescue and schools were the Board's first priority. He further advised that under the current economic conditions, it conveys to Roanoke County the task to start looking at a new way of doing things including projecting these projects into the future. Supervisor Altizer expressed his believe that it is possible that we may not be able to fully cover $327,000 in three years, but the Fire and Rescue Department will need to look at other areas to save in order to accomplish this. For example, Supervisor Altizer asking where would Staff find one-time money that can be spread out as reoccurring funds over two or three years in order to not make the hit entirely in the third year, but possibility in five years and attempt to ease that particular burden. Additionally, he advised that he believes that using a 2-3 percent gain in fees for service. Supervisor Altizer indicated that when the Board approved fee for service back in fiscal 2000/2001, those funds were dedicated to hiring additional people. Supervisor Altizer then inquired about the commitment level of this grant with Chief Burch indicating that was the intent of this work session, as the federal deadline for filing is September 17t". All of the paperwork has been prepared, hoping that the Board would agree. Supervisor Flora asked if the proposed grant is approved, would it be possible to turn it down. Chief Burch replied that it was possible to do so, but would not recommend as it would be noted and put on a specific list for future reference when approving grants. Supervisor Flora then stated it was his opinion that this situation was a "catch 22", as staff cannot tell the Board how this is going to be paid for because the decision must be made today to move forward. Mr. Mahoney, County Attorney responded that the Board of supervisors will still need to accept and appropriate the funds, if awarded. Mr. Goodman asked Chief Simon to detail the aspects of the fee for service program and provide the Board with background. Chief Simon indicated that historically, fee for service would go up approximately 2 '/ percent to 3 percent, based on inflation set with Social Security. When the insurance debate occurred in 2010, this program was frozen at the last minute. Medicare will not be increasing and there is no sunset clause. Chief Simon indicated that staff is not anticipating increases in Medicare to assist in paying for federal legislation. Further, Medicare rates will be coming down 348 September 14, 2010 and will impact us on a local level, i.e. mileage charges have always been rounded up, now these charges will be paid per tenth of a mile. The estimated savings to the Medicare program is expected to be $80 million annually. Chief Simon explained that there are quite a few small regulations that will impact Roanoke County overall, but there will no longer be an automatic increase as in past years. Mr. Goodman asked for an estimate of total fees for services with Chief Simon responding $2.3 to $2.4 million, of which 64-70 percent is based on Medicare. Supervisor Altizer asked how much of these fees are committed to salaries, with Chief Burch responding that he was unaware as all of these fees are categorized as revenue. Supervisor Altizer then asked how much is budgeted with Chief Burch responded approximately 11 percent. Supervisor Altizer then asked when the adoption of fees for service was implemented was there a recommendation regarding what these fees would be utilized for with Chief Burch responding personnel and equipment. Additionally, Chief Burch advised $300,000 was used in debt service for the Public Safety Building with Mr. Goodman advising the $300,000 was cone-time occurrence. Supervisor Altizer then reiterated that when the fee for service program was implemented, it was done so with the understanding the funds would go to equipment and personnel and now it has been outlined that this is not correct. Ms. Hyatt explained that if you review all of the positions that have been added since inception, the County is spending much more in salaries than is being received under the fee for service program. Additionally, Mr. Goodman advised the approximate cost of a new position is approximately $55,000. Furthermore, there are approximately sixty positions remaining on the five-year plan, which would equate to over $3,000,000. Supervisor Elswick expressed his opinion that an assumption could be made that there will no longer be volunteers in ten years, or less. The Bent Mountain volunteer group will probably be disbanding, Clearbrook already has and Roanoke County will begin to lose volunteers throughout the County. Supervisor Elswick then asked if this is the case, what will Roanoke County need to do, maintain a lower level of service or people? Mr. Goodman responded there are several options to consider, the first being hiring additional people, which will take more money. One way to obtain more money is to cut other budgets with a transfer from the general fund or raise taxes. The second option would be to not hire anyone, which would mean a reduction in service because there will not be enough personnel to roll out the vehicles. Mr. Goodman reiterated there is a need in Mt. Pleasant and asked if the Board would allow services to deteriorate, because if you do not hire personnel and there are not enough responders to make the call, the whole system will be impacted. Mr. Goodman explained that he had requested Chief Burch come before the Board and explain the entire situation. Mr. Goodman advised when reviewing budget numbers, revenue numbers were barely achieved and on the expenditure side, the employees did a fantastic job by managing their budgets which resulted in significant savings. These savings, however, are one-time, unless reallocated. When saying Roanoke County does not have the funds, we are referring to revenues. The departments had significant September 14, 2010 349 savings, but most will seek rollovers, which are allowed in the policy, to rollover funds as each department is getting tight. Supervisor Altizer explained that Mr. Goodman was making the point that Roanoke County does not want to run into a locomotive in the third year. Supervisor Altizer expressed his opinion that he did not feel that this would happen, because of the belief and trust that he has in staff. He stated that he was aware of what had been done in the past and expects the same in the future, however, now is the time to start planning for what is inevitable because to attempt to catch up would be unobtainable. Supervisor Altizer then asked for a basic number of year-end surplus for 2010. Mr. Goodman stated that if you are talking about revenue, it would be next to nothing, but if Mr. Altizer is asking about expenditure savings, that number would be significant. Mr. Goodman indicated that he is hesitant to provide numbers because they have not been confirmed. Supervisor Altizer explained he is attempting is to see if there are some extra savings over the next three years that would reduce the $327,000 hit in year three. Supervisor Altizer stated he felt that he finds it unbelievable that $327,000 could not be found in a $186 million budget. He expressed his option that he is aware that cuts have been made, and the year-end surplus will be added to economic debt drop-off. Mr. Goodman advised Mr. Altizer that there is no significant reduction in debt payments in the foreseeable future. Ms. Hyatt stated that part of the problem is that even though there are funds left over from last year; departments use that to cut their budgets to get through this year. Supervisor Altizer then asked how much would be transferred into the unappropriated fund balance this year, with Ms. Owens responding approximately $200,000. Supervisor Altizer then stated that $900,000 was transferred into that fund from health care savings that were not used, so the $200,000 could be utilized for this project. Ms. Owens responded that the $200,000 was one-time dollars. Supervisor Altizer stated that he is attempting to ease the pain of the third year by stretching it out in order to do what needs to be done now and in year three. He advised that he is looking for ashort-term fix, until the economy has a chance to rebound. He further advised that he could not believe that $300,000 could not be found over the course of three years. Additionally, if the economy does not turn around in the next three years, there will be worse problems to attempt to figure out. Supervisor Altizer stated that he does not see how Roanoke County cannot move forward with this, otherwise the Board will be blindsided with the need to hire 40 people. Mr. Altizer stated the Board is aware of what is coming down the road and at some point; Roanoke County will either have to add additional personnel or decrease the service level. Mr. Goodman reiterated that since he was hired, the Board has stressed the priority of police, fire and rescue and schools, which is what Roanoke County has put in our budgets to fund. Roanoke County has given additional funds to schools, and has worked with the School Board to insure the quality of schools is maintained. However, the historical revenue growth is in the past and in order to deal with future or new enhancements and services, Roanoke County will either need to increase taxes or additional budget cuts will need to be made. Mr. Goodman indicated that the margins have all been cut and the next step would be 350 September 14, 2010 to look at service levels and production within other departments that are not considered high priority, which will be a challenge on a going forward basis. Supervisor Moore stated that with the economic area like Clearbrook with the new Walmart location, there were be a great deal more accidents and more traffic and the discussion is about savings lives and she feels that Roanoke County cannot afford not to move forward with this grant. Mr. Goodman indicated that he could not disagree with Supervisor Moore's statement, which is why he has pointed out if additional personnel are not hired, it will be a reduction in service as it relates to Fire and Rescue, as it is a fact that you can only run so many calls a day with a certain number of people. Supervisor Elswick questioned if staff could identify the areas where a reduction in service would not be tolerated from the tax payers' perspective, because citizens should advise where they think their tax dollars should go toward. He stated that he felt that schools were the most important, with an assumption that the individuals who mange the schools are managing them wisely and are not being frivolous in their spending. He stated that funds should also go to Fire and Rescue based on the assumption that the staffing plans are reasonable and not some kind of "Cadillac" staffing plan. Further, the funds should go to the Police Department under the same set of circumstances and lastly to garbage. The Board should identify basic services that should not be cut and then identify what goes beyond that. Mr. Elswick stressed, if cuts are going to be made to services, and then it cannot be for basic services. Mr. Goodman stated that he was glad Supervisor Elswick has brought up this discussion as it will be a part of the budget presentations for the next fiscal year. Mr. Goodman detailed that staff will work with the Board and with the Departments to prioritize and identifying the importance of individual departments, however, this will entail cutting services. He stated that it was important to identify and set the priorities and look at what services can be reduced in order to have the necessary funds for the high priority areas. Supervisor Flora asked if Roanoke County charges for services for fire with Chief Burch responding negatively. Supervisor Flora then asked Chief Burch to explain why not. Chief Burch indicated there were multiple reasons why services for fire response are not charged. First, very few insurance companies will reimburse for fire response and the paperwork and information that you get into is not as clear-cut as ambulance service. For example, if the fire is contained to a bedroom, Fire and Rescue will be on site for thirty minutes and if the structure is fully involved, Fire and Rescue may be there for three hours. There are too many variables involved. Mr. Goodman asked if there were charges for hazmat response with Chief Burch responding that no personnel charges were brought forth, but equipment was. He stated whoever is responsible for the hazmat incident is charged. Mr. Goodman asked if there was a potential to add personnel costs with Chief Burch responding that he was not sure. Mr. Goodman then asked if charges were billed under a driving under the influence accident. Chief Burch answered that the process was basically the same September 14, 2010 351 and based on the fee, man hours ending up costing more than the fee to complete the paperwork and court appearances. Chief Burch then stated that he is experiencing turnover of one to three people per year, so there should not be a problem with meeting the requirements under the grant. Chief Burch stated if these individuals are not hired, it would in essence be reducing the level of service in Mt. Pleasant. Chief Burch explained that he wanted to make sure everyone understood what was happening. He advised that if you took Read Mountain as an example, who went into business in 1991 and up until two years ago served Roanoke County and Botetourt County very well without one salary dollar paid. This has been happening all over Roanoke County, however times are different now and to continue the same service, something will have to be done. Chief Burch stressed he totally respected Mr. Goodman's comments, but if a plan is not made, in two to three years time, calls will need to be made from core stations, as the neighborhood stations will need to be closed because remaining open will not be worth the utility bills. Supervisor Flora stated that he is of the opinion that he would rather see us charge for services for fire versus a tax increase. He further added that if a rural County in Virginia can charge for services for fire, he feels Roanoke County is sophisticated enough to do the same. Chief Simon stated that he was very familiar with the process, as there are companies that will come in and say if certain things are done, they can generate a certain amount of dollars. The problem is there is no requirement for the citizen to pay the fire department and most insurance companies reimburse the policyholder. In order to collect the funds, the department would have to go after the individual for payment. Chief Simon indicated that a contract can be entered into with one of the companies; however, he is of the opinion that the fees will not be very large especially in comparison to the fees for ambulance service. Additionally, there will be a lot of issues associated with trying to do a soft billing. If the direction is hard billing, this would need to be set up with a collection agency and he stated he does not feel that this is the direction the Board wants to go in. Supervisor Altizer stated that he feels staff must start somewhere and move forward to try and do what it can on the five-year staffing plan. He advised that he is of the opinion that staff needs to look at every avenue of new revenue. Supervisor Altizer asked the Fire and Rescue to investigate and bring back to the Board for a decision of whether or not it is cost effective. Unfortunately, due to the current economic conditions and state budget cuts, Roanoke County is being forced to look at every opportunity that is presented to us by statute, while continuing to give the best services possible. Mr. Altizer stated it is his opinion that staff has to move forward, address the situation, figure it out and solve it. Additionally, Supervisor Altizer indicated that it is his opinion that staff is going to have to start looking at things three or four years in advance and anticipate what will need to be happen in order to put the programs in place. Supervisor Elswick stated he agreed with Chief Burch's staffing plan and in light of the number of volunteers that eventually will be going away; it seems to him 352 September 14, 2010 that it is almost like free money. He further added that hopefully, three years from now things should be different. It was the unanimous consensus of the Board to move forward with the grant application and for staff to arrive at sourcing items to be included in this year's budget. IN RE: CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION At 5:22 p.m., Vice-Chairman Elswick moved to return to open session and adopt the certification resolution. RESOLUTION 091410-5 CERTIFYING THE CLOSED MEETING WAS HELD IN CONFORMITY WITH THE CODE OF VIRGINIA WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia has convened a closed meeting on this date pursuant to an affirmative recorded vote and in accordance with the provisions of The Virginia Freedom of Information Act; and WHEREAS, Section 2.2-3712 of the Code of Virginia requires a certification by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, that such closed meeting was conducted in conformity with Virginia law. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, hereby certifies that, to the best of each member's knowledge: 1. Only public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements by Virginia law were discussed in the closed meeting which this certification resolution applies, and 2. Only such public business matters as were identified in the motion convening the closed meeting were heard, discussed or considered by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia. On motion of Supervisor Elswick to adopt the resolution, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Altizer, Flora, Elswick NAYS: None ABSENT: Chairman Joseph B. "Butch" Church L September 14, 2010 IN RE: ADJOURNMENT Vice-Chairman Elswick adjourned the meeting at 5:23 p.m. miffed by: Deborah C. Ja Deputy Clerk to the Board Approved by: ~~~~ Eddie "Ed" Elswick Vice-Chairman 353 354 September 14, 2010 PAGE LEFT BLANK INTENTIONALLY