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HomeMy WebLinkAbout12/9/2014 - RegularDecember 9, 2014 781 Roanoke County Administration Center 5204 Bernard Drive Roanoke, Virginia 24018 The Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia met this day at the Roanoke County Administration Center, this being the second Tuesday and the only regularly scheduled meeting of the month of December 2014. Audio and video recordings of this meeting will be held on file for a minimum of five (5) years in the office of the Clerk to the Board of Supervisors. IN RE: OPENING CEREMONIES Before the meeting was called to order an invocation was given by Reverend Joseph "Joe" H. Klontz, Jr. of Northview United Methodist Church. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited by all present. IN RE: CALL TO ORDER Chairman McNamara called the meeting to order at 3:03 p.m. The roll call was taken. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Joseph P. McNamara, Supervisors Al Bedrosian, Joseph B. "Butch" Church, Charlotte A. Moore and P. Jason Peters MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Daniel R. O'Donnell, Interim County Administrator; Richard Caywood, Assistant County Administrator; Paul M. Mahoney, County Attorney; Amy Whittaker, Public Information Officer and Deborah C. Jacks, Deputy Clerk to the Board IN RE: REQUESTS TO POSTPONE, ADD TO, OR CHANGE THE ORDER OF AGENDA ITEMS Supervisor Peters requested the addition of a new business item to the Consent Agenda, the Request to donate the Federal Emergency Administration of Public Works Plaque from the old William Byrd High School to the Vinton Historic Society. There were no objections. 782 December 9, 2014 IN RE: PROCLAMATIONS, RESOLUTIONS, RECOGNITIONS AND AWARDS 1. Recognition of Paramedic/Firefighter David Jones of Fire and Rescue for having received a Governor's EMS award for Outstanding Contribution to EMS (Richard E. Burch, Jr., Chief of Fire and Rescue) Recognition was given to Mr. Jones. Rob Logan, EMS Council, David Jones, Steve Simon and Chief Burch were in attendance for the recognition. All Supervisors offered their congratulations and thanks for a job well done. 2. Recognition of Diana Rosapepe, Director of Library Services, for receiving the Elizabeth M. Lewis Award (Daniel R. O'Donnell, Interim County Administrator) Recognition was given to Ms. Rosapepe. All supervisors offered their congratulations and thanks for a job well done. 3. Resolution of appreciation from the Roanoke County Board of Supervisors to Barry L. Tayloe, Deputy Sheriff -Major, upon his retirement after more than thirty-three (33) years of service (Charles Poff, Sheriff) Deputy Sheriff Warner provided the recognition. The resolution was read by the Deputy Clerk and all Supervisors offered their thanks and congratulations. RESOLUTION 120914-1 EXPRESSING THE APPRECIATION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF ROANOKE COUNTY TO BARRY L. TAYLOE, DEPUTY SHERIFF -MAJOR, UPON HIS RETIREMENT AFTER MORE THAN THIRTY-THREE (33) YEARS OF SERVICE WHEREAS, Major Barry Tayloe began his service to our community and country in 1969 when he joined the Navy and became a Hospital Corpsman. He was eventually assigned to Charlie Company, 3rd Medical Battalion, 3rd Marine Division and stationed in Okinawa, where he prepared to be deployed to Viet Nam. After four and a half years of service, he left the Navy in 1973 and returned to Roanoke, where he started working with the Roanoke City Sheriffs Office as a Deputy Sheriff Paramedic; and WHEREAS, he also joined the Cave Spring Rescue Squad, where he volunteered his service for over ten (10) years. In this position, he was a pioneer of December 9, 2014 783 emergency services and helped create the advanced life support services we know today and was one of the first three (3) paramedics in Roanoke County; and WHEREAS, in 1976, he resigned his position with Roanoke City to pursue a degree in nursing. After obtaining his nursing degree, he worked for the Lewis Gale Hospital as an Emergency Room nurse. It was in this position that he worked with Dr. Richard Fisher to create the valley's first helicopter service, Life Guard 10 and was on the original Board of Directors for the helicopter service; and WHEREAS, on March 1, 1981, he started his career with the Roanoke County Sheriff's Office as a medical supervisor; he was also a member of the Sheriffs Office' SWAT team for ten (10) years. During this same time, he volunteered with the Bent Mountain Rescue Squad and flew as a Flight Paramedic with Life Guard 10; and WHEREAS, in 1990, he left the Sheriffs Office and joined the newly created Roanoke County Police Department as a police officer. He returned to the Sheriffs Office in 1992, at the request of former Sheriff Gerald Holt and worked as the Corrections Administrator for almost twenty (20) years. In 2010, he transferred to the Court Services Division as the Division Commander and remained in this position until his retirement on November 1, 2014; and WHEREAS, while he was with the Sheriffs Office, he spearheaded many community programs such as the Easter Bunny Foundation events for children and the St. Francis of Assisi events for service animals. He served on the original committee for the creation of the Western Virginia Regional Jail. He also served on the Roanoke Valley Prevention Council, Unified Hostile Incident Committee, and countless other committees; and WHEREAS, on November 1, 2014, Major Barry Tayloe began his well-deserved retirement with over thirty-three (33) years of service to the citizens of Roanoke County and a Law Enforcement career that spanned over 37 years. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County expresses its deepest appreciation and the appreciation of the citizens of Roanoke County to BARRY L. TAYLOE for more that thirty-three (33) years of capable, loyal and exemplary service to Roanoke County; and FURTHER, the Board of Supervisors does express its best wishes for a happy and productive retirement. On motion of Supervisor McNamara to adopt the resolution, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None IN RE: BRIEFINGS 1. Briefing on the results of the 2015 General Reassessment (William E. "Billy" Driver, Director of Real Estate Valuation) 784 December 9, 2014 Mr. Driver presented the Board with a briefing by providing a PowerPoint presentation. Supervisor Church thanked Mr. Driver for pointing out the net asset group and does exclude one (1) acre of land and our Disabled Veterans Program. Supervisor Bedrosian stated that what stands out to him is the $1.3 million increase. He just wanted to put notice out to the people in Roanoke County that the government will be trying to spend this $1.3 million. He just wants to make sure that everyone is aware. IN RE: NEW BUSINESS 1. Request to grant an additional half-day Christmas Holiday on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 (Daniel R. O'Donnell, Interim County Administrator) Mr. O'Donnell outlined the request. Supervisor Bedrosian inquired why this was not set with the calendar. Mr. O'Donnell responded he is not sure if this was on the State calendar originally or if it was added. A-120914-2 Supervisor McNamara moved to approve the staff recommendation to grant an additional half-day holiday. The motion carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None 2. Resolution directing the County Administrator to review various policies, practices and procedures, assess their effectiveness and to report his findings and recommendations (Paul M. Mahoney, County Attorney) Mr. Mahoney outlined the resolution and advised it was at the request of the new County Administrator, Tom Gates. RESOLUTION 120914-3 DIRECTING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO REVIEW VARIOUS POLICIES, PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES, ASSESS THEIR EFFECTIVENESS, AND TO REPORT HIS FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS December 9, 2014 785 WHEREAS, the Roanoke County Board of Supervisors desires that the County Government demonstrate the highest of ethical standards; and WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors acknowledges that personnel matters are the duty and responsibility of the County Administrator and not the Board of Supervisors; and WHEREAS, recent events have called to question the manner in which allegations of inappropriate conduct are reviewed, assessed and acted upon; and WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors, during the recent process of selecting a new County Administrator emphasized their desire that the appointed County Administrator diligently assess the County Government's processes and practices related to ensuring ethical behavior of all County government employees; and WHEREAS, the Board recognizes that ethical and fair procedures consistently applied result in improved citizen and employee confidence in their County Government; NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, as follows - 1 . ollows:1. That the County Administrator is hereby directed to review the various administrative policies and practices related to human resources management in Roanoke County and to assess their effectiveness in ensuring the highest of organizational ethics; 2. That the County Administrator shall specifically examine the County's disciplinary procedures as they relate to the performance of County government employees and to assess their effectiveness in ensuring fair, equitable and consistent treatment of all employees; 3. That the County Administrator shall develop a report to the Board of Supervisors highlighting any specific finding, conclusion or recommendation that results from these examinations and, as appropriate, may recommend to the Board for their consideration, any policy action deemed advisable for strengthening the ethical standards of the County Government. On motion of Supervisor McNamara to adopt the resolution, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None 3. Resolution of the Board of Supervisors of the County of Roanoke, Virginia opposing the Mountain Valley Pipeline (Paul M. Mahoney, County Attorney) Mr. Mahoney outlined the resolution prepared by Ruth Ellen Kuhnel. The following citizens spoke: 786 December 9, 2014 Steve Hanes stated when he read the agenda he noticed there was no area for public comments, so he did not come prepared with a lot of comments, which is a good thing for the Board and probably for him. You would think someone who has lived with this threat for as long as we have known it to be a threat of the Mountain Valley Pipeline, you would have something to say and he does. One thing the Board must know by now of the thousands of citizens in the Roanoke Valley and on up into the New River Valley have joined together in various groups, formal organizations, to oppose the Mountain Valley Pipeline. Citizens in Roanoke and Floyd and Franklin and Giles and Montgomery Counties have formed organizations and through those organizations have joined together with existing organizations with lots of members like Cool Cities Coalition, Sierra Club and the Blue Ridge Defense League all in support of opposing the Mountain Valley Pipeline. We realize that the FERK, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission has jurisdiction over this and the State and the County does not and that is too bad, but that is the way it is and we have to live with that. It's psychologically uplifting for the citizens opposing this to understand that their elected officials support them in this and we appreciate that and for that he thanked the Board. By the end of 2015, we have heard that there will be maybe as many as twenty (20) pipelines cutting through Virginia, North and South, gas pipelines coming from the coal fields down through Virginia just by the fluke of being in a geographical location in the center of this action, we wind up looking at these twenty (20) pipelines. Those of us who are fighting this battle back on the home front always say, "How much is enough." Is enough, enough?" We are going to be fighting this for years to come. So, this is the first step in the battle, the Mountain Valley Pipeline and we are going to do our best to do what we can to oppose this. When you get that many pipelines, you have to ask yourself, if they are coming through Virginia, how many more are destined to come through Roanoke Virginia. Surely, this is not the last. So, we want to set up an organization now to fight as much as we can to keep this from us. So, we ask ourselves every day, whose land, whose land will they try to take to do this next. We appreciate the County's position on this, we hope, and we are going to fight and try to educate the people of Roanoke County and hope that whatever you do here tonight will draw more people to that cause. Tomorrow night, we are having another public citizens' meeting at the Bent Mountain Center to help inform people as to what is going on here. Brent Riley stated when he looks at this issue of the pipeline and what he has been told and when he looks at the big picture, there is so much unsettled that we don't know about our energy situation. We are in the process of trying to figure out energy policy going into the next decade and beyond. There are so many things. Who can explain why gas is falling. We do not know, we are in the dark. We haven't quite figured it out. There is a big deal, a tremendous big deal, the day before yesterday between Putin and Turkey to build a major natural gas pipeline and God smacked the administration. They have not acknowledged that yet; everything is up in the air at an international level. He will say this, at this point and until things get settled down, we have to be in opposition to it until something is presented to us that something makes December 9, 2014 787 sense and then we do what makes sense. Freeda Cathcart thanked the Board for this opportunity. She advised that she sent an email out this morning and did the Board get a chance to look at it? In trying to summarize what is in my email, it was a commentary what was submitted to the Roanoke Times that she thought would have been published before now. She has been researching this issue since the end of October and is doing an analysis. Her background is in reinsurance, which is the industry and insures insurance companies. So, she was looking at it from an economic viewpoint. Why is the price of gas so cheap? She advised it is because it is being extracted irresponsibly right now and at the end of November there were articles in the New York Times talking about the problems they have been having with the gas extraction in North Dakota and the large amount of money that is costing, millions of dollars to clean up spills. She advised she would not go into the details of that. The insurance industry is very interested in what is happening because they are the industry that is to supposed to spread the risk and cover it so it can be responsible and it doesn't hurt industries. What is happening right now is there is a push back from the industry to stop being negligent with our water supplies and our land and resources. As that push back comes and the gas companies are more responsible in how they extract the gas, it is going to cost them more money to do it. When it costs them more money, it is going to raise the price of gas and as it raises the price of gas, it is going to drop the demand for it. Her projection is that the demand is going to drop so low that there is not going to be the need for the gas to travel through this pipeline. This information will be sent to FERK. But, what is important for the Board, the leaders of Roanoke County, is to protect the interest of the people in Roanoke County, the land values and attracting businesses here. If the threat of having a pipeline come through is going to drop the land values; drop your revenue. So, she hopes the Board will be leaders for the people of Roanoke County and oppose this pipeline because there is also another scenario whereas if the push back with the insurance industries takes a while and the price of gas remains low, then there is potential that the gas could come through that pipeline. It looks like it is going to be near Spring Hollow. She does not know of any insurance company willing to insure this pipeline the way it is being proposed at this point. That means that the people here, the public, would be insuring it and if the private industry is not willing to insure it, she does not think it is good market for the public. Supervisor Moore moved to approve the resolution and Chairman McNamara opened the floor for discussion. Supervisor Bedrosian stated he would like to ask Mr. O'Donnell how many pipelines are underneath Roanoke County right now; this was brought up at a prior meeting. Mr. O'Donnell advised he knows there are smaller ones, one that goes through Starkey Park that is about eight (8) inches. He is not sure of others, but there may be. Mr. Mahoney advised there is one near Spring Hollow. Supervisor Bedrosian stated he just wanted to state there are pipes running underneath the ground. He is going to take ten (10) minutes on this. He has 788 December 9, 2014 written down some notes and will be looking at his computer so he can walk through some of the things he thinks are important. He would have to say that he agrees with some of the opposition to the Mountain Valley Pipeline, but does not think we have really clarified in our resolution what it is that we are opposed to. He feels like that is a problem for him. So, he wants to talk a little bit about that. He wants to make sure that he personally expresses his specific concerns. He was not invited or involved in putting together this resolution so he thinks it is a general resolution that he thinks actually might cause more confusion among County citizens on this picture on how America creates energy. To America, energy is a good thing. Sometimes we talk about gas and energy being bad, but everybody did get here today in a car that used some kind of energy. If you have an electric car, it was still probably created by coal. The reality is we all use energy and he thinks it is important to be specific about the project and what our objections are. Now, he references this because a couple months ago we had a meeting in this room and we had a lot of people speak about the pipeline and there were all kinds of comments that were made over all types of areas and he thought some of them were pertinent, but he did not think some were. Some of the issues that were brought up encroached on people's liberties. So, he would like right now to itemize some of those things and tell you the things he agrees with and the things he does not agree with about the Mountain Valley Pipeline. He has seven categories. First, we had speakers that came up at our last meeting that the Mountain Valley Pipeline was just here to make money; they were not concerned about the citizens. A couple of comments were about that. He stated he thinks it is a little dangerous when we paint with a broad brush and state it is inherently wrong for companies to want to make money and be profitable. He thinks that is a good thing, so when someone tells him all they want to do is make money, well okay, when he looks around everyone pretty much has a job, you are making money. How are you making money? You work for a living and make money. Now to use a subjective comment like, "They don't care about the people in the Roanoke Valley," he thinks is a little careless. He thinks we all care about the people and we are all looking out for our self -interests, not our selfish interests, but our self -interests and he thinks we all do that in this room. So, again, he thinks profit and making money is a good thing and profit in a free enterprise system shows that you are doing something that other people want and he thinks that is important too. He added that an overwhelming amount of Roanoke County businesses and their employees are very much in support of profit and money making. So, he thinks that sides with the people of Roanoke County and the businesses. Secondly, comments were made that fracking was unsafe and he thinks we just heard today about fracking. Now, the reason that we are talking about fracking is that fracking is what is bringing the natural gas down the pipeline to our area. Yesterday, he just heard on a local radio station, which is not a right-wing, conservative radio station, but a moderate, everyday radio station and there was a very positive story from conservation groups that were very pleased with the fracking that is going on in the George Washington National Forrest. He only heard a small portion, but it was a positive message. Again, he does December 9, 2014 789 not think many County residents have a problem with fracking and he thinks they will find it is a great way for America to become energy independent so that is a good thing. Third, we had comments from citizens that were adamantly opposed to continued use of fossil fuels. He for one feels we live in a free country where the use of fossil fuels has done a tremendous amount of good for an overwhelming amount of people in our Country and around the world. Many of us want to enjoy all these luxuries that fossil fuels has brought us, even in remote areas, even on the mountain tops, we are still enjoying all the great benefits from fossil fuels. He does not believe that personal beliefs of the use of fossil fuels should guide us in this discussion. Again, he wants to bring this back to Roanoke County. He thinks an overwhelming majority of Roanoke County residents have no problem with using fossil fuels. In fact, it powers our electricity and the overwhelming amount of SUVs and trucks that are in Roanoke County use fossil fuels in cars. Fourth, we have had comments about this issue that relate to fossil fuels, but touched on the issue on how fossil fuels effect man-made, global warming. This was also brought up at a meeting we had prior. He is bringing this all in to show you there are many different sides to this issue and thinks we need to focus on the real issue about this Mountain Valley Pipeline. Again, he thinks man- made, global warming is a theory and should not be part of this discussion. This issue relates to if you look at how many people believe in it, about less than half of Americans believe in man-made, global warming. Fifth, has to do with the fact that the pipeline would not be a job creator for our area; this is a valid point. In fact, they said the jobs would be short-lived, if any, and would be done by workers with a very specialized skill from outside of our area. Again, he would ask you, how a private company wants to operate its business is up to them. The purpose of the business is not to hire people, it is to do something you enjoy doing and being profitable at it. Employees are hiring when they are doing such a great job that they need help to maintain your business. Again, he will relate this to businesses in Roanoke County. They would agree that the amount of who and where they hire their employees is their own business and they should have the freedom to do that. The sixth point is that the natural gas was not even for our area. A lot of people said that they are going to bring it through our area and they are going to ship it overseas. He thinks that is important that we all come to the realization that we live in a global economy and if a United States company sells products or services overseas that is okay and in fact that is good for America. What a change that is from all the purchasing we do from China and the oil that is imported from the Middle East. This comes down to simple economics. What is most profitable? Again, many businesses in Roanoke County sell to other countries, states and countries and should not be a problem. Finally, the seventh point that was brought up in opposition to the Mountain Valley Pipeline (MVP) was this would take away from the rail business that was currently being used to transport natural gas. Again, he thinks that every privately -owned business has a right to conduct their business in the most efficient and cost-effective manner possible. If the MVP finds that it will be less expensive to transport gas with a pipeline versus using rails or trucks, it should be left 790 December 9, 2014 up to them to make that decision. Reducing costs to produce a product is a highly coveted and worthy goal of any business. It makes it more competitive and drives down costs, which is beneficial to all of us. Again, on this issue, he is sure that businesses in the Roanoke County that rely heavily on transportation want to make their own decisions based on what is best for them and their business. Now, he took the time to list these objections because he personally feels if these objections are the reason that we are against the MVP coming to Roanoke, he does not think that is all right, to demand of a business the way they want to conduct their business. So, he offers two (2) things though, the two (2) points that he thinks are very valid and to him are showstoppers with respect to this MVP pipeline are as follows. The first is how it effects our water source; and he had heard this from many people and that is very valid. If you come through an area and you start polluting the waters, none of us want that. As of this point, he had not seen studies or any information that specifically states exactly where it is going and how the pollution is going to happen and we cannot do something about it or if there is a good solution for it. Again, if it is verified that there is a risk to our water sources and the water quality, that is a showstopper, you have him. The second one and to him the most important one has to do with property rights. The use of eminent domain by a private company because it is for the common good does not hold water to him. Now, the past and potential misuses of this way of thinking to him are disastrous and we are going to pay a high price along this kind of thinking. So, he strongly and without compromise would not support a private company, which MVP is, disregarding the rights of property owners and using their property against their will and that is very important. If eminent domain was not to be used though and this is why he thinks we need to narrow down what our opposition is. If it was not to be used in this case and it was up to the property owners to make their own decision that would be another matter. He can see that this would also open up a can of worms to a lot of property owners and he says this because he has had discussion with property owners that live on Bent Mountain and has said what if eminent domain was out of the picture and your neighbor said he loved the idea and he is going to let them come right through his property, what would you do. A lot of people said they would fight them on them on that, they are not bringing that up here. Really, it is not your property, it is their property and they want to do what they want to do on their own property. It is not going to affect you. He has had people fight against that and he says we have to be very careful about telling someone else you cannot do that. He is opposed to eminent domain on this issue, but if it ever opens up to where you want to make the decision as a property owner, you have the right to make it. If you don't want somebody on your land, and when the individuals were here last time, he asked them what if somebody says no to you when you want to go on their property. There was no answer because he thinks we are heading down the road to that point, the path to eminent domain and he opposes that. So, in closing, he thinks there are many people here that oppose the MVP that were very much in support of putting windmills on Bent Mountain. The issue of windmills was different and he recognizes that. There was not an issue of eminent December 9, 2014 791 domain, but there was an issue of subsidies. The government was going to subsidize people for putting windmills on their property to make it attractive to everyone without anybody having any responsibility if something went wrong and all of it was going to be subsidized by the taxpayer and he thinks that is wrong. He just wanted to make that point and to think about where you stand on it. Is your philosophy of natural sources of using windmills, etc. override your thoughts of property rights for people? He thinks it is very important that the Board puts together a much more specific resolution that highlights the areas that are the specific areas and not this general thing that says we don't want them here. He advised he thinks that is wrong and he would support it if he could put some of these things and rewrite the resolution having all of our input. He was never asked for any input on the resolution and he thinks it should be the input of all of the Board members. Supervisor Church stated since the Spring Hollow Reservoir, which is the valley's major, principal source of water resides in his district, there is no way that he can in good conscience support or favor the pipeline. Just a few years ago when the valley was in a severe drought and just the thought of having precious water was so important to each one of us. Roanoke County with significant wisdom years ago built Spring Hollow Reservoir that would service not only Roanoke County and have our neighbors from Roanoke City during some drastic times. As proposed, there is no way he can support this gas line. As it is proposed, it also touches or goes close to Camp Roanoke. We have two (2) situations, most importantly the water supply and until he can be certain and he does not know if there ever is a way he can be certain that there will not be a danger to the safety of our water supply. He does not see how anyone could want to go along with this proposed route. He added that the County did not have a decision in this, it is the federal government and no eminent domain situation. The federal government has. He thinks it has just been hallowed ground since he has been on this Board that in other situations and does not remember any Board has looked favorably on eminent domain unless it is some dire, life or death situation and asked Mr. Mahoney to confirm. Mr. Mahoney responded in the affirmative. He thinks he has shown how he stands and if Spring Hollow as in Cave Spring or Windsor Hills, he would feel the same way. Supervisor Peters stated he does not have a position for or against the pipeline, but does have concerns that this is being done outside the normal procedure that we are opposing something that we really don't know anything about. We do not have, if you look at any other project that comes before the County, it goes through a public hearing, the Board knows what is going on. It is his understanding that we have been notified that the public hearing is December 16 or 17th at the Salem Civic Center and we do not have proposed route for it yet. He stated he feels he has been a little taken back by why this has been pushed forward when we do not have the details like anything else that has come before us whereby we know the details and what we are voting on. He agrees with Supervisor Bedrosian statement that this resolution lacks clarity that we should have before making a final decision. 792 December 9, 2014 Supervisor Moore stated she would like to point out a few things on the resolution. First, it does not say anything about global warming. It does point out that we are close to Spring Hollow Reservoir, which is Roanoke County's main water source; the valley's main water source. It is close to historic Camp Roanoke, which has camped every year for years. It is close to Bottom Creek, which is upstream from us on Bent Mountain. It will effect as the resolution states, it may affect our streams, flood plans and ground water. So, this is what the resolution in fact says. It is very broad, but it does say, mainly that it does affect our watershed and that is why she is opposed to the pipeline coming right now and as the gentleman stated earlier, if we find out more information later as to exactly where it will be. When looking at the GIS maps, the route goes right near the manager's camp at Camp Roanoke. As Mr. Church stated, it is near Spring Hollow and Bent Mountain, which Bottom Creek runs all the way down to our watershed. Chairman McNamara stated he does not view this resolution as being an anti -pipeline resolution in general. He views it as, "We are Roanoke Valley and we expect to be part of this decision making process, part of this routing process." We should have information as it relates to this pipeline. He is sure they are fine people trying to make a living that are proposing this pipeline. The reality of this situation, out of the chute, everything was done wrong in his opinion. We find out from our citizens there is a pipeline coming through and he is getting calls wanting to know what is going on. He has no idea. The Board does not approve or disapprove the pipeline; it is the federal government. Probably if it required every jurisdiction to approve it there would never be a pipeline or an interstate highway or a 785 kb power line. There would not been any of these things we that we use in our everyday life. The real concern he has and the reason he will support the resolution, whether it passes or not he does not know, he will support because it puts us on record that we want to be a part of this routing, we expect our concerns, ideas, thoughts, our citizens ideas, thoughts and concerns to be heard and considered. He did receive a contact from the pipeline company this week and met with him. The request is why don't we wait until after the public hearings and bring up on our January meeting when we have all the information. We can always change the resolution somewhere in the future and he is not totally opposed to waiting until January, but the fact that the only time he hears from the pipeline company is one day after our agenda comes out and everyone is running around hiring consultants, lobbyists and pipeline companies to come talk to us about postponing. Where were you the last three (3) weeks we have been calling and trying to get information? So, for reasons, he does not think this resolution is antipipeline, it is anti the way the process has been done. It is not paying attention to our citizens. It is not paying attention to the Board and by not paying attention to the Board, we cannot assist our citizens. This is why he intends to support this resolution. Supervisor Bedrosian stated he would just like to make a point that every other thing that we do on this Board we have a first reading and he has made a couple of mistakes here where he voted the first reading down. The first reading is to actually December 9, 2014 793 allow it to move forward for discussion and people can come and speak. We have had one meeting where the MVP people have come. All these other meetings are starting now, so he does find it interesting that on this, we want to squash it, and it is a private company. By not doing this resolution, we are not agreeing that we like it or whatever, but as supervisors it seems that we need to have an open mind and listen. Then, all five of the Board members would actually create a resolution; that is his second part that he does not like. He was not involved; he does not know how many people were involved in this resolution. He then asked Mr. Mahoney how many people were involved; did everybody on the Board have input. Mr. Mahoney responded in the negative, a couple of Board members as well as some non -County officials and other people that his office spoke with. It just seems strange as something as big as this, whether you agree or disagree that we are putting this out for Roanoke County that not all of us had an input. He does not mind losing on this as long as he was able to a part of the discussion of this resolution, but it is just sitting here and we have to vote yes or no. He would vote no because it is not the right thing to do at this point. He thinks you have to let people have a discussion. We need to open this up and let's hear. His two (2) main concerns are property rights and eminent domain and he will stick with these two. If they are talking about eminent domain and if we just put that in we could say refer to our resolution. Also, our water sources are very important to us. To him that would be very powerful. Supervisor Church stated he concurs with the Chairman with the course and the route this has taken. He did receive a call as well and he was not available from someone representing the MVP, but up until that time, there were no calls. This resolution does not agree or disagree with what is going to happen, we are expressing the sentiments of our constituents and he can assure everyone that he has not found a single one in the Northside, Glenvar, Catawba area that is in favor of, "as proposed" because he does not know if the Board will ever know. It is dangerously close to our water supply, as proposed. If they are going to change the route and the parameters. Right now we are talking about thirty-two (32) inch diameter lines proposed; seventy- five (75) foot permanent easement and one hundred and fifty (150) foot temporary easement. We have to start somewhere and thinks it is a groundswell of common folks that are taking the position that no one should come into an area and take for granted that the federal government is going to allow them to do this. They just closed their ears to the people's voices and closed their eyes to the people that are most adversely effected. He cannot do business that way. It is the general feeling that suddenly the phones are ringing, suddenly people are calling when there is a possibility of opposition. He has news for these people, there are thousands of people who are standing in the same shadow because the fear of the unknown is a big fear here. The unknown is that we do not know, we really don't know the details. When the proposal was made, he was severely disappointed in the presentation, it left a lot to be desired and the room was filled. He thinks it started the rollercoaster going downhill and it has never stopped gaining speed since then in his opinion. It is not just one item, it is a multitude of an 794 December 9, 2014 assumption of the critical water supply of this valley. Supervisor Peters stated as he reviews the resolution and he is glad the other statements were made and wants to echo those statement. He thinks this has been handled very poorly by the company who presented it to us. As was said earlier, he does not think there is a member of this Board who did not receive a phone call before we had somebody standing here giving a presentation. If you look at this resolution, it is outlining the concerns that we have, Camp Roanoke and our water supply and maybe passing a resolution would send a clear message back to them letting them know that we want to make sure that proposed pipeline is moved and they are touching on an area that is very sensitive to us and hopefully we will get more input from the company. Chairman NcNamara stated he wanted to clarify some things. The thought is there should be a public hearing and multiple readings. He explained first and second readings are generally for ordinances. Public hearings are generally related to seven (7) different items, usually related to land either special use permits, lease of County buildings or things of financial impact to the citizens or a rezoning. This is guided by the State. To act on a resolution, from a procedural standpoint, it is very appropriate, we have four (4) resolutions on our agenda that we are acting on. We did afford folks an opportunity to participate. The draft agenda came out on Tuesday, the second of December at 5:00 p.m. That is for all Board members to look at, review, see what is new, things we may have an interest in and follow-up, ask questions, etc. We had that opportunity. He in fact, followed up on this particular item and he believes another Board member did as well. We have that opportunity until the formal agenda is released, which was done on December 5, 2014. We had two days to put our thoughts into this so he feels it is appropriate that we are acting upon it, whether we are voting up or down is a matter of legislative will. RESOLUTION 120914-4 OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF ROANOKE, VIRGINIA OPPOSING THE MOUNTAIN VALLEY PIPELINE WHEREAS, EQT Corporation and NextEra US Gas Assets, LLC ("EQT/NextEra") recently announced the construction of a potential pipeline project; and WHEREAS, the pipeline shall be known as the Mountain Valley Pipeline (MVP) and is expected to transport a natural gas supply from the Marcellus and Utica regions to various Southeast United States markets; and WHEREAS, the MVP is expected to be constructed between Wetzel, West Virginia and Pittsylvania County, Virginia; and WHEREAS, the MVP will be governed by the United States Natural Gas Act, which requires a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity (CPCN) from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC); and December 9, 2014 795 WHEREAS, as currently proposed, the pipeline will be up to forty-two (42) inches in diameter and will require an approximate seventy-five (75) -foot wide permanent easement (with an additional one hundred and twenty-five (125) feet of temporary easement during construction); and WHEREAS, upon information submitted by EQT/NextEra, a possible compressor station or facility may also be located along the pipeline corridor in Roanoke County; and WHEREAS, MVP has initiated the Federal regulatory approval process to construct the pipeline through the FERC's pre -filing review process with the pre -filing of Docket No. PF 15-3-00; and WHEREAS, MVP has presented statements that the engineering aspects will include surveying and evaluating preliminary routing to help determine a final route with the least impact to landowners, cultural resources and the environment; and WHEREAS, MVP sent out letters on September 18, 2014, to affected landowners in Roanoke County stating that the landowner will be contacted by a right-of-way agent to request permission to survey and stake the proposed route; and WHEREAS, the current proposed route includes property owned by Roanoke County, more specifically the Camp Roanoke property (Tax Map No. 083.00-01-16.00- 0000), a longstanding County landmark facility serving our children and youth; and WHEREAS, the Parks, Recreation and Tourism Department of Roanoke County completed an initial map analysis based upon MVP's own maps and determined that the pipeline corridor would be "literally in the backyard of the Manager's Cabin" and all the buildings would be within approximately a 1,200 -foot radius of the corridor'; and WHEREAS, the current proposed route includes properties in the southwestern portions of Roanoke County, within the Poor Mountain and Bent Mountain communities crossing over the line into Franklin County; and WHEREAS, the proposed route of the MVP would traverse the Bent Mountain Community Planning Area and Glenvar Community Planning Area; WHEREAS, the proposed route of the MVP would traverse near the Spring Hollow Reservoir, while owned by the Western Virginia Water Authority, is a water source for the region; and WHEREAS, the County's Comprehensive Plan contains vision statements, goals, objectives and implementation strategies on the protection of the County's natural, cultural and scenic resources including the Blue Ridge Parkway and its view sheds, our mountains and ridges, our rivers, streams, floodplains and groundwater, our historic buildings and archaeological sites, and our agricultural, forestall, and rural areas especially in the Bent Mountain and Glenvar Community Planning Areas2; and WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors opposes the construction of the proposed Mountain Valley Gas Pipeline through Roanoke County, Virginia. Quoting, Roanoke County Parks, Recreation and Tourism Department 2 See, Roanoke County Comprehensive Plan (Revised 2005) 796 December 9, 2014 NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Board of Supervisors of the County of Roanoke, Virginia hereby opposes the proposed route of the Mountain Valley Gas Pipeline that is included in Mountain Valley Pipeline, LLC's pre -filing request Docket No. PF 15-3-00 with FERC due to the potential adverse impacts to Camp Roanoke and to the Poor Mountain and Bent Mountain Communities, and the Board further asserts that the adverse impacts to the citizens of County of Roanoke and the public at large outweigh the economic benefit, if any, resulting from the burden placed on public and private property by the construction of the Mountain Valley Pipeline. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Board of Supervisors of the County of Roanoke, Virginia hereby directs the County Administrator, or his designee, to transmit this resolution to FERC for inclusion in pre -filing Docket Number PF 15-3-00. On motion of Supervisor Moore to adopt the resolution, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: Supervisor Bedrosian 4. Resolution electing and certifying the method for reimbursement of revenues to the Commonwealth of Virginia for fiscal year 2014- 2015 (current fiscal year) (W. Brent Robertson, Director of Management and Budget) Mr. Robertson outlined the resolution. Chairman McNamara inquired the amount in the fuel contingency reserve with Mr. Robertson advising approximately $254,000. Chairman McNamara stated the thought process is that fuel is expected to stay down due to the overproduction with Mr. Robertson advising in the affirmative. Additionally, there are additional funds in the turnover reserve. There was no discussion. RESOLUTION 120914-5 ELECTING AND CERTIFYING THE METHOD FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF REVENUES TO THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA FOR FISCAL YEAR 2014-2015 WHEREAS, on November 10, 2014, the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia amended Chapter 2 of the 2014 Acts of Assembly, which included Item 471.30; and WHEREAS, this item reduced State aid to local governments by $30 million in fiscal year 2014-2015; and WHEREAS, Roanoke County's allocated reduction is $291,708; and WHEREAS, Item 471.30 requires each local government in the Commonwealth of Virginia to elect and certify a reduction option and to submit said election to the Department of Planning and Budget on or before January 1, 2015. December 9, 2014 797 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia as follows - 1 . ollows:1. That Roanoke County elects to make a reimbursement of State funds directly to the Commonwealth of Virginia in the amount of $291,708 for the full amount of Roanoke County's reductions. 2. That this reimbursement payment shall be paid to the Commonwealth on or before December 31, 2014. 3. That to accommodate these reductions in Roanoke County's current budget the County Administrator is authorized to make transfers between expenditure items within the General Fund. On motion of Supervisor McNamara to adopt the resolution, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None IN RE: REQUEST FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND FIRST READING OF REZONING ORDINANCES - CONSENT AGENDA 1. The petition of Morgan Ventures, LLC to obtain a Special Use Permit for a broadcasting tower (cell tower) approximately 195 feet in height in a C-2, High Intensity Commercial, District on approximately 1.00 acre, located at 4247 Bonsack Road, Vinton Magisterial District Supervisor Peter's motion to approve the first reading and to establish the second reading and public hearing for January 27, 2015, was approved by the following vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None 2. The petition of Roger and Deborah Rardin to rezone an approximately 8.00 acre portion of an approximately 19.44 acre parcel from 1-2, High Intensity Industrial, District to R-1, Low Density Residential, District and to remove a proffered condition from the 11.44 acre portion of the property zoned R-1, Low Density Residential, District, located west of the Norfolk Southern Railroad near the 5000 block of Poor Mountain Road and north of Bydawyle Road, Catawba Magisterial District Supervisor Church's motion to approve the first reading and to establish 798 December 9, 2014 the second reading and public hearing for January 27, 2015, was approved by the following vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None IN RE: FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES Ordinance appropriating $542,611 for the Department of Social Services Building Renovation Project (Rebecca Owens, Director of Finance; Richard Caywood, Assistant County Administrator) Mr. Caywood advised there were three (3) parts to this ordinance. First, an appropriation of $542,611 to continue the work that is currently under way. These amounts have been presented to the Board on a number of occasions and represent rollover funding from the Department of Social Services as well as the Building Fund. Scope of the projects is to replace the roof, relocate the cell carriers, replacement of the HVAC system and also repair the parking lot, renovate the fifth (5t") floor of the building and install a sprinkler system. This is funds to complete the unmodified project. Secondly, it would authorize staff to increase the contract amount beyond the twenty- five percent (25%) limit, which is in keeping with the feedback staff received from the Board. Finally, authorize staff to utilize money from the Building Fund as they become available to complete the floor by floor renovations. Supervisor Peters asked what was the awarded contract amount with Mr. Caywood advising just over $2.5 million. Additionally, there are expenses on top of that for the architect and then the moving and relocation money, furniture etc. that we would incur with the project. Supervisor Peters then stated he was confused as to why asking for more funds when the scope of the project has already been bidded out. Mr. Caywood advised if this is not approved, the scope of the project underway would need to be changed. Using the Building Fund for a project like this would be very routine as would utilization of the rollover funds. The only reason the Board is seeing this in a carved out fashion was due to the fact that staff brought forward the proposal to expand the project and specifically pulled those funds out of what was already approved so they would be seen separately to see the whole project. That may be something in hindsight that staff will do differently. Supervisor Peters then asked so staff requested these funds before knowing the rollovers amounts would be available. Mr. Caywood responded negatively explaining the Board has seen this before. Supervisor Peters stated he understands the Building Fund part but is trying to get a clear understanding of the scope of the project. If this is the original project that is currently being worked on, we did not know that we would have $293,000 at the time of the award. Mr. Caywood stated he did not know if staff knew that would precisely be that amount, but staff knew they would have a similar amount. December 9, 2014 799 Chairman McNamara stated he is in favor of the first paragraph on page two where account balances remaining would carryover one hundred percent (100%) and asked since it was already in there did they need to appropriate and the bidding procedures. He stated he did not want a blank check. Ms. Owens stated the way staff intended for it to be written would be for any funding remaining in the Social Services Operating Account that those funds would be approved to be rolled over each year and could be used toward the construction project. Chairman McNamara asked again if the Board would need to appropriate. Ms. Owens stated the way it is written, staff would need the Board to reappropriate the $542,611 and then the intent of this would be to allow for the funding that is remaining in the Social Services Operating Account to actually carryover, which it does now with the only difference is that we would want it to be designated for the construction project. Supervisor McNamara asked again if he is authorizing ten (10) years' worth of carryover, three (3) years' worth of carryover or signifying an intent, which the Board would still need to approve and have competitively bid. Daniel O'Donnell, Interim County Administration advised those were two separate questions. The intent is to allow the balance of the building fund to automatically roll over. Supervisor McNamara asked for the fourth time, suppose two (2) years from now, $500,000 has been built up in this account. Off of what the Board has done, does the Board still need to appropriate the $500,000 as a separate action item and if not, he thinks the Board needs to because otherwise you could build this money up over ten (10) years to build a Taj Mahal on an action that occurred today. Mr. O'Donnell stated if that is an issue, since this is a first reading, you could remove that portion and then appropriate the funds and move forward at second reading. Chairman McNamara stated he was fine with that. Supervisor Peters stated why would you not make the rollover just effective for those floors and that way it is specified that once the floors were finished it would no longer be applicable. Chairman McNamara stated that is correct, but what is a floor, $500,000 or $3,000,000 and that is his concern. Supervisor Church stated this is a good intentioned lapse. On November 18, 2014, there was an item on the Board that required a four-fifths vote and seeing it was not attainable he withdrew the motion. Now, that particular item was brought at the request of Interim County Administrator, Daniel O'Donnell and the Chairman. About a week prior to November 18, 2014, he was in the building and the Chairman came into Mr. O'Donnell's office and said we think we have something you might be interested in and what they proposed made good financial sense. It was identified by Ms. Owens, Mr. Caywood and Mr. O'Donnell since the place was in disarray, right wrong or indifferent, the staff felt that this was going to be okay. Since he was asked to come in, it is not in anybody's district, it is in the City of Salem, but services Roanoke City, Salem, Roanoke County and the Town of Vinton. He thought it sounded good. To fast forward form November 18t", we had a viable project at the suggestion of the Chairman and Mr. O'Donnell and concurrence with everybody because they thought it would work 800 December 9, 2014 and he did too. So, how does this play into where we are now? He has had discussions with Ms. Earl, Director of Social Services. He does not know how many people have been up there; he does not think very many of our Board members other than Supervisor Moore and myself have been there. You can physically see the upsidedowness or premature movement, the staff and directors all thought they had a workable item. Supervisor Church then asked Joyce Earl, Director of Social Services to come forward and answer or elaborate. Currently, if you step off the fifth (5t") floor on the elevator there are cages, construction etc. that wasn't supposed to be there. You have the fourth (4t") floor, which is exactly the same and asked Ms. Earl to explain. Ms. Earl advised the fifth floor is being repaired and they are waiting on that floor until the roof is repaired because there is no point in completing that until the roof is done. Fourth floor is part of the HVAC, and are off that floor because all of the ceiling tiles were out because of the new HVAC and they are going to sprinkler each floor as they move along, which is all part of the initial project. Supervisor Church then asked when the thought to go ahead and do the entire project cause you to have the offices moved. Ms. Earl advised staff decided the sequence of the floors that would be renovated because at some point they will have to move folks back in and they are compressed as much as they can be on three floors. We did move ahead with mentally where the folks would go and how we would be able to handle even with the HVAC piece. Supervisor Church then asked if Ms. Earl had people spread out even out of the building with Ms. Earl responded yes in different locations. Supervisor Church then stated that the intentions were felt to be good, he spoke with the Chairman on the phone a week ago and suggested a substitute motion, which he is prepared to make and asked the Clerk to distribute copies. Chairman McNamara stated everybody knows what he is talking about. Supervisor Church then asked Mr. O'Donnell to summarize. Mr. O'Donnell advised this is very similar to what was proposed at the last meeting, the only difference is that it will take two readings. Essentially, what it does is request to appropriate $1.5 million from the capital reserve, $250,000 from the DSS Building Fund balance and $292,611 from the Department rollover for a total of $2,042, 611. Other portions of this proposed ordinance is that it would authorize $1.5 million as an internal loan from the Major Capital Account to be paid over four (4) years from the DSS Building Fund, which comes from the rents. This will be paid off in 2016, so there is a cash flow that comes in and allows us to be able to pay off the internal debt back to the Major Capital fund. The other thing that it does is to authorize staff to negotiate changes to the A&E contract and construction contract greater then twenty-five percent (25%). After speaking with Supervisor Peters and Moore, one of the concerns is if we authorize changes above twenty-five percent (25%), aren't we giving away control to the contractor? He stated he does not think we are, because we do have bids for the fifth (5t") floor so we have already bid similar work that if those estimates came in higher or not comparable to what we have for the fifth (5t") floor, we would reject those and go back to Plan A, which would be to appropriate the $542,611 for that. His December 9, 2014 801 recommendation has always been the same, he thinks this is the best plan because it disrupts the building for a shorter period of time, if you have to rebid several different portions of the work, it will be more expensive because of the cost of the bidding, mobilization and it is also a delay in time, which is disruptive to the staff. Again, he does recommend that the substitute motion is the way to go. Supervisor Church moved to approve the first reading of the substitute motion, copies of which were provided to each Board member. Supervisor Peters asked if the A&E work has been done on the first floor. Mr. Caywood advised it is not fully complete; the only floor that has been done is the fourth (4t") floor. Supervisor Peters stated he does not like this process as he is giving a blank check to a contractor. He is going to come in with the bid and if he comes close to what we have, we will move forward. Why would we not do a competitive bid as we would in any other situation? He would think that with the fifth (5t") floor and the towers being moved, all your big ticket items have already been done. To him, if he is understanding the scope, this is more moving walls, painting, new ceiling tiles and should be a whole lot less. On the backside of this and Mr. Church was correct he understands the need for this, he understands what is going on there, and understands that to do something today will be much cheaper than it will five (5) years from now. However, he does have a concern with taking $1.5 million out of that funding because what is going to happen if we have an economic development that wants to come in here, where are you then going to have the money to procure whatever property or make whatever necessary arrangements need to be made. Mr. Caywood asked to speak briefly with regard to the construction piece and then he would let Mr. O'Donnell speak to the economic development piece. If you look at the scope the way it exists today, many of the expensive elements are part of the original project, but if you have to look at what the contractor needs to do on each floor, which is what is under way today. The fifth floor was so water damaged, it is being gutted and that is a little different. The fourth floor looks like the rest of the building so they have taken all the the and grids down and we had to demo a few walls to make room for some things, but essentially what they are doing is installing duct work and piping for the sprinkler so the staff has all left. If you follow the existing contract, they would put all of that in and then put up new grid, new tiles, repair a little bit of the damage and then put in the new HVAC equipment and then they would leave and go to the next floor down the building. The reason he thinks it is a much better value for us from a financial perspective is to go ahead and do everything now is that contractor will leave and put things back together again, then he is going to move on and then staff will need to be moved each time. So, if you come back with a separate operation to finish the renovation they will go through it all again. Staff will need to move out again. Supervisor Peters injected that he understands. Mr. Caywood stated that is where you lose. He commented Supervisor Peters is correct in one thought, if you had better foresight and packaged it all up in the beginning, you might get slightly better pricing, however, the penalty you pay for doing it 802 December 9, 2014 in discreet steps is going to be far beyond. As Mr. O'Donnell mentioned earlier, we are in the driver seat because we have the extra work that staff wants to do. It is no different from a change on the Vinton Library project. If the price is too high, we will say no. While you could have somebody else come in, there is so many costs associated it is not really the best value. One last comment he would like to make about the project is that what makes it different from some of the other capital projects the County has done recently; he has worked around construction for twenty (20) years and this is probably the most intricate and complicated project to figure out how to figure out actually how to get going. It is mostly because of the stuff that was on the roof, but it was also somewhat of an emergency that when he first came to the project, the roof was actively leaking and not long after that we abandoned it because of the leaking, so he did look at this as somewhat of an emergency project, where we are actively having our building damaged and exposing our staff to poor conditions so you could have spaced out some of the decision making and the steps a little farther, but there were so many moving parts and pieces and with that continual damage, it was not packaged up quite as neat as other projects. He thinks it is important to talk about that in his mind it was almost an emergency situation since we had to run the building. Supervisor Peters stated he gets that, but his question still remains; how long is the construction going to last. Mr. Caywood stated if we do not change the scope of the project, the construction under the contract we have now, will end probably midsummer of this year. Supervisor Peters stated so that allows us plenty of time. It has been presented to the Board as an emergency measure. The contractors are in place and that will give us time to finish the A&E work and receive the first competitive bid to make sure we are getting the best pricing for the County. Mr. Caywood stated the key is that we would not be able to stop; this contractor will continue his leap frog through the building, so we will lose that opportunity, for example, renovate the fourth (4t") floor while it is vacant, because he will have to finish and we will have to move staff around again so he can go down the stack so to speak in the building. This is why we came to the Board in the fashion that we did. If we wait, we will do the work with a different contractor, but will have to do it in the steps and incur those costs again. Mr. O'Donnell stated we have roughly $2.5 million in major capital so there will be a million left and there is $2.5 million in the minor capital. He does not know the balance in the economic development fund. Rebecca Owens advised there was approximately $2 million in economic development and another $1.5 in the CRT. He does not see the lack of flexibility for a year because he does not think there will be projects for these. Supervisor Peters inquired when would the funding need to take place, the $1.5 million. Mr. O'Donnell advised staff would like to have at the next reading so that they can authorize the design so they can move quickly. Supervisor Peters stated that was not his question. His question is when is the payout made, i.e. next summer? When are the actual dollars going to the contractor? Mr. Caywood responded staff would need to negotiate because it would extend the life of the contract, but he thinks the project would be done in calendar 2015 and be done by this time next December 9, 2014 803 year. Chairman McNamara asked Mr. Mahoney to verify from a procedural standpoint if the substitute motion passes then everything is fine. If it does not pass, can the Board go back to the ordinance since there wasn't a motion made? He stated he probably should have waited for a motion first. Mr. Mahoney said you would need a motion on the original item. Chairman McNamara stated so he could go back to that with Mr. Mahoney responding in the affirmative. Supervisor Bedrosian stated he needed a little clarification. He wants to go back so the viewers can understand this. When you go back to day one and this project is in the CIP and trying to get a new building at $12 million. This is how this process works on anything we want to do right? It is put in the CIP and then it elevates itself up until it becomes a top project and then we do them. At that time, the Board was not willing to do that, but they were willing to do a project for $3.1 million. Is that correct? This got approved instead of the $12 million new building, the Board looked at all the money we had just like a family would do and said we can do this and it is $3.1 million. Ms. Owens advised the original amount was $3 million; some of which came from Salem and some from our reserves and then through the year-end roll over process like we have allowed Departments to do, $126,000 was carried over from the Department of Social Services to add to that. The current project to date is $3.1 million. Supervisor Bedrosian stated so that was what was approved by a legislative body that said, "yes, we have looked at all the things and this is what we are going to approve." Then, we come to the point and maybe this is what he does not understand. This is the money appropriated, but it is not enough to cover just doing what we were supposed to be doing and that is what he does not understand. Why was this not enough to do what we said we were going to do or the contractor said he was going to do with $3.1 million? Why do we even need the $500,000? Is there an agreement that is made that says this is the money, this is what the people on the Board has said we can do and that is what we are going to do. Mr. Caywood stated there are two (2) things that have happened. The first is that we did the work, because when we approved it as a CIP item, it had not been bid by the industry and then there are two other things that happened during the design of the project. Supervisor Bedrosian stated so you had not bid the work so you then bid the work with Mr. Caywood responding in the affirmative. Supervisor Bedrosian then stated so someone came in with a bid that is obviously under the amount of money that you have. Mr. Caywood responded in the affirmative stating the bid is not the total amount of the work. There is other work that we do either with staff or separate contracts, i.e. computer wiring. The one thing he wants to point out though that he would call minor scope differences from what that original CIP envisioned is the building is leaking the whole time and we continue to damage the floor so when we bid the project, we gave the contractor a number of line items to price. So, he did not price the whole thing as one lump sum. So, one of the items he priced was to do a full renovation of the fifth floor and to add a sprinkler system, but it would certainly be required by code if you were doing a new building today, it is not absolutely required 804 December 9, 2014 when you do renovation work of the type we were doing, but certainly a good idea in a building of that height with staff. If you look at just the absolute original scope, your bid prices are extremely close to what was approved by the Board, but again, when we talked about this subsequently, and in looking at the bids that came in and the revenue that we have available in the building fund with the roll over, he thought it made much more sense to award the other two elements; the sprinklers and the fifth floor renovation especially given the condition of the building. The sprinkler system is something that is very difficult to estimate in a renovation project, but staff thought it was very important to have that for a building with that many people in in. Supervisor Bedrosian stated he did not want to rehash everything, but is looking at the process. It seems to him that we have committed to a certain amount of money and then we spend more than that; we did not have. Mr. O'Donnell stated staff had a roll-over work session and another work session where we discussed this and staff really thought they had consensus to use roll over funds. We moved forward in order to save time and because we have a leaky roof and people not working in the building. We felt we needed to get this done as quickly as possible and that is why staff felt comfortable because they thought they had consensus. Supervisor Bedrosian stated in a normal process what we would say is that we ran out of money so at the next Board meeting, have a vote and get the approval and then do the work. He just wants to make sure that from now on with all these things that is the normal process. Chairman McNamara stated he wanted to clarify one thing that he thinks will be helpful. From a "normal" process, Department heads roll over funds have been created by things they have done so from a "normal" process this has been done in the County for quite some time. They generally have the wherewithal and the freedom to do anything they feel is most valuable for their particular organization and since they have saved the money and done good things to save that money and know best where to use that money, again, they don't get to keep all of it, a percentage of it. The Board has always allowed that to occur. If we did not look at changing the scope of this project, these funds would have been allocated as part of a Board action a month and one half ago. Supervisor Bedrosian stated so you run out of money, the Department you are dealing with has saved the money, they have it and they want to put it into this project, which is the $542,000. After that, they still have to come for approval from the Board or just do it. Mr. O'Donnell stated it is a little bit more complicated. The roll over, fifty-five percent (55%) can be rolled over automatically and thirty-five percent (35%) goes into one reserve and ten percent (10%) goes into a technology reserve, but the County Administrator can choose to recommend it and it would have been automatic had it been put in the roll over report that Ms. Owens did last month. Staff would then have to come and ask for the $250,000 out of the balance of the building fund. This has never been an issue before because it can only be spent for DSS purposes. Supervisor Bedrosian stated so now we are at the point whereby we have spent that money and now we are asking because we are there and things look like it would be easier to keep December 9, 2014 805 the contractors there, they would not have to leave and have it bid out and somebody else come in and we want to do some other things that were not in the original $3 million. Mr. Caywood responded in the affirmative. Supervisor Bedrosian stated so that is the extra $1.5 million. He hears all the emotion and everything and he understands, but it seems like if there is an orderly process to do that we ought to follow the process. It was not part of the scope and there are a lot of projects for Roanoke County to do. It is not that we cannot ever do that, but just wait. He just wanted to make sure that he understands and believes it will get approved for the first reading, but he is negative on the big dollar amount. It seems the $542,000 is fine and if we did this then everybody that is going to do a little project, and knows the facilities building needs it and if we start it, it keeps happening and becomes a bigger and bigger project, which it was not stated in the beginning that it was going to be. Mr. O'Donnell advised it was a very unusual situation. Staff saw an opportunity to get the work done at the lowest cost by doing this for the whole building and disrupt the operation of the department for the shortest period of time. This is the reason he recommended this. Supervisor Moore stated one of the questions was asking about the construction work. Do you have a daily project manager who would act like a change order if you want the extra work they are going to be doing? Mr. Caywood advised in the affirmative. Originally, it was because of the complexity of the project and the number of people in the building, but one of the things they also do is make sure that we are working on the correct scope and we know on a daily basis what is going on with the project. Supervisor Moore stated so staff will be able to keep track daily if there is a change order or the cost of each floor or each item that they are going to be doing. Mr. Caywood responded the contractor has not been authorized to do any additional work outside of what was originally bid and awarded. Before we would give that authorization and if the Board were to approve the expanded scope, we would have to have agreed upon pricing with the contractor and then do a formal change order that would direct them to do the additional work. We have made it extremely clear to the contractor that as of today, they are to work on the work they have bid and no more and if we do make changes they will be done formally so there is always a price agreed to before they start doing the work. Supervisor Moore stated that is exactly what she was looking for. The building does need renovating. She thinks it makes great financial sense to go ahead and do the whole building. It would make is safer for the employees, the families who have to go there. There has been a need for so many years and this project really had been put on the back burner for many years. Certainly, staff has her approval on it. Chairman McNamara stated he is not inclined to support the substitute motion. The reason is that he does not think it is a terrible idea; he does not like working outside of our basic parameters, which this will be a step away from, our basic parameters. If we do it once, we will do it again then all of sudden we say look at all the debt we are in. He would support the $542,000 because we would have supported that if we had never had brought up this other alternative. This other alternative, there may 806 December 9, 2014 be some disappointment if in fact it fails, there should be some comfort from the standpoint of now instead of $3.1 million, you ended up with $3.6 million plus a commitment from the Board over the next two, three, four (2,3,4) years to finish off the building. That to him is pretty good. There are a lot of other things that certainly need to be done and could be done so he does think bringing forward the motion to look at the entire thing is beneficial to the department of social services. Supervisor Church stated he really sincerely is at a loss for words and the reason being is that item was not even proposed by him. It was proposed by the Chairman and certainly with his background in finance, he proposed the funding stream and whatever. He asked Mr. O'Donnell to verify that he just happened to be at the building that day when they asked him to come into his office by saying they had something he would be interested in. He thought yes. He did not try to do some unusual funding and did not ask for anything at all. It was a perfect opportunity, but he wants to address a couple of things that Supervisors Bedrosian and Peters cannot possibly know because of length of time. This is not something that we got in and thought, wow, this is going so good, let's put another $3 million into it. That is not the case at all. The case is as he stated on November 18th, this item had been on our tiered system CIP, Capital Improvement Project, that we each appoint citizens to ascertain what is important. It was number one and two for years and years and he said quite candidly the reason it was not built years ago because the Board did not have a choice to afford $3.1 million because the then Board put all of the money into the Vinton library, regardless that the library was ranked #7. It is the prerogative of the Board and they made that choice. So, Supervisor Bedrosian, please do not think we got this grandiose idea and decided we were going to move forward. It was a well- intentioned snafu or call it what you will. When the Interim County Administrator told him about it he was tickled to death. Something has changed since then and he has not heard the explanation. He knows the 4/5th vote was not going to come even by the Chairman's own decision he was not going to support on September 18th and that is why he withdrew the motion because Supervisor Bedrosian did not want to expend any more funds. So, he could count to three and there were only three possibilities. The motion would have failed and that is why he withdrew it. Now, what even baffles him more, he worked closely with the Advisory Board members on the DSS Board and was advised Supervisor Peters wanted to support this action. He heard this directly from Supervisor Peters appointee to the Advisory Board and Ms. Earl can verify. With that being said, he has to ask himself, now the questions about taking funding, not having funding, miraculously shifted. This is one of the few items in Roanoke County that we are doing that is not even physically located in Roanoke County. He does not think we normally do projects that are actually setting inside the City of Salem proper. He then asked Mr. O'Donnell to confirm. Mr. O'Donnell stated only these facilities. Joyce Earl, Director of Social Services and Betty McCrary, former director all had their hopes up. They had the Chairman and the Interim Administrator saying this looks good and then suddenly the floor starts moving where people cannot stand steady. He knows of no December 9, 2014 807 other way to put it. This is not Supervisor Bedrosian something began with a snowball and turned into an avalanche. It's just very unusual and what bothers him most of all is that good people are the ones being shifted around. These people that run the County, City of Salem, who is a partner who are watching this. Our new administrator, Thomas Gates sent an email as Supervisor Church spoke with him the day of the State of the County. His first paragraph, "I am in support of Interim Administrator O'Donnell's proposition on the renovation of the building that was communicated during November. There is some urgency in terms of need. I fully support." Our new County Administrator is one hundred percent (100%) completely in favor of trying to get this done. We are not taking $10 million. This was a cut back project, Supervisor Bedrosian, from the beginning. Supervisor Moore was here. Correct me if he is wrong, $9 to $10 million. Mr. O'Donnell confirmed that the number is $10 million. His point to Supervisor Bedrosian is we have gone in the opposite direction. We have grown downward because we looked at options. We have to help Salem City. We are really stymied because the Courts dictate to us that that we must have something viable, close by to the Court System because they have child abuse situations, family members being taken from each other and they cannot have our employees driving twenty (20) to thirty (30) minutes. The Judges insist on something that is logical. This is a perfect example of doing more with less. So, he is quite at a loss for words, not literally, with how this happened. Again, this is not his proposal, the Chairman and Mr. O'Donnell brought this to him as he was walking down the hall to make copies. He had no idea about it and the votes have gone strangely and the people who suffer the most are those in need. We serve all districts, all Counties. They are the ones who will be hurt, the employees are going to be hurt big time. They are in a quandary. This is very important; we did not just try to bump up this price. We were trying to do something good at his own request. Supervisor Church motion to approve the first reading and to establish the second reading for January 27, 2015, was approved by the following vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Church, Peters NAYS: Supervisors Bedrosian, McNamara IN RE: PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES 1. Ordinance authorizing the granting of a non-exclusive easement, which varies between twenty (20) and thirty (30) feet in width, to Verizon Virginia LLC on property owned by the Roanoke County Board of Supervisors (Tax Map No. 027.13-04-01.0000) for the purpose of an underground communication system (Anne Marie Green, Director of General Services) Ms. Green advised there were no changes from the first reading. 808 December 9, 2014 Chairman McNamara opened and closed the public hearing with no citizens to speak on this issue. There was no discussion. ORDINANCE 120914-6 AUTHORIZING THE GRANTING OF A NON-EXCLUSIVE EASEMENT, WHICH VARIES BETWEEN TWENTY (20) AND THIRTY (30) FEET IN WIDTH, TO VERIZON VIRGINIA, LLC ON PROPERTY OWNED BY THE ROANOKE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS (TAX MAP NO. 027.13-04- 01.0000) FOR THE PURPOSE OF AN UNDERGROUND COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM WHEREAS, the Map of Airlee Court Annex recorded in the Clerk's Office of the Circuit Court of Roanoke County, Virginia, in Plat Book 2, page 103, established a street designated as Nelms Lane of variable width and located along the northern boundary of Airlee Court Annex adjacent to Lots 5, 10, 15, and 20 of said subdivision; and WHEREAS, the area designated and set aside for public use as Nelms Lane on Map of Airlee Court Annex has never been improved or accepted into the Virginia State Secondary Road System; and WHEREAS, the Petitioners, the property owners of Lot 1 and 2, Block 1 of Map of No 1 of Woodbury Gardens, adjoining the unimproved section of Nelms Lane, extending approximately one hundred ten (110) feet from the northern edge of Woodbury Street, have requested the vacation of this unimproved portion of the variable width right-of-way; and WHEREAS, the above described street or road is more clearly indicated as "Private Lane" on "Exhibit showing portion of private lane to be vacated by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia" dated 11-11-2014, prepared by Roanoke County Department of Community Development and attached hereto as Exhibit "A"; and WHEREAS, no other property owner will be affected by the vacation of this undeveloped portion of said Nelms Lane and that its current existence imposes an impediment to the adjoining property owners making improvements to their properties adjoining this previously dedicated but unimproved street; and WHEREAS, the Petitioners have requested that, pursuant to Section 15.2-2272 of the Code of Virginia (1950, as amended), the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, vacate that portion of this right-of-way which adjoins their property and is designated as "Nelms Lane" on the plat of Airlee Court Annex, Plat Book 2, page 103; and WHEREAS, this vacation will not involve any cost to the County and the affected County departments have raised no objection; and WHEREAS, notice has been given as required by Section 15.2-2204 of the Code of Virginia (1950, as amended); and THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, as follows: December 9, 2014 809 1. That pursuant to the provisions of Section 18.04 of the Roanoke County Charter, the acquisition and disposition of real estate can be authorized only by ordinance. A first reading of this ordinance was held on November 18, 2014, and a second reading and public hearing of this ordinance was held on December 9, 2014. 2. That pursuant to the provisions of Section 16.01 of the Roanoke County Charter, the subject real estate (a portion of Nelms Lane, a variable width street and approximately one hundred and ten (110) feet in length) is hereby declared to be surplus and the nature of the interests in real estate renders it unavailable for other public use. 3. That a portion of this street known as Nelms Lane and being designated and shown as "Private Lane" on Exhibit "A" attached hereto, said street being located along the northern property line of Lot 15 Map of Airlee Court Annex in the Hollins Magisterial District of the County of Roanoke, be, and hereby is, vacated pursuant to Section 15.2-2272 of the Code of Virginia, 1950, as amended. 4. That a variable width public utility easement is accepted, reserved and maintained for public purposes in the area previously designated as "Nelms Lane" as shown on Exhibit "A" attached hereto. 5. That all costs and expenses associated herewith, including but not limited to publication, survey and recordation costs, shall be the responsibility of the Petitioners. 6. That the County Administrator, or any Assistant County Administrator, is hereby authorized to execute such documents and take such actions as may be necessary to accomplish the provisions of this ordinance, all of which shall be on form approved by the County Attorney. 7. That this ordinance shall be effective on and from the date of its adoption, and a certified copy of this ordinance shall be recorded in the Clerk's Office of the Circuit Court of Roanoke County, Virginia, in accordance with Section 15.2-2272 of the Code of Virginia (1950, as amended). On motion of Supervisor Bedrosian to adopt the ordinance, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None IN RE: CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTION 120914-9 APPROVING AND CONCURRING IN CERTAIN ITEMS SET FORTH ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AGENDA FOR THIS DATE DESIGNATED AS ITEM J- CONSENT AGENDA BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, as follows- 810 December 9, 2014 That the certain section of the agenda of the Board of Supervisors for December 9, 2014, designated as Item J - Consent Agenda be, and hereby is, approved and concurred in as to each item separately set forth in said section designated Items 1 through 5 inclusive, as follows - 1 . ollows:1. Approval of minutes — October 14, 2014 2. Resolution establishing the meeting schedule for the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County for calendar year 2015 3. Confirmation of appointments to the Western Virginia Regional Jail Authority 4. Request to accept and allocate grant funds in the amount of $4,828 from the Virginia Department of Fire Programs to the Roanoke County Fire and Rescue Department for the repair of the existing burn building 5. Request to approve the loan of a 1990 Chevrolet Police vehicle for display at the Virginia Museum of Transportation On motion of Supervisor McNamara to adopt the ordinance, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None RESOLUTION 120914-8.a ESTABLISHING A MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF ROANOKE COUNTY FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2015 BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, as follows - 1 ollows:1. That for calendar year 2015, the regular meetings of the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, are set forth below with public hearings scheduled for 7:00 p.m. unless otherwise advertised. Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 3 pm Saturday, January 17, 2015 (time to be determined) Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 3 pm Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 3 pm Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 3 pm Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 3 pm Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 3 pm Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 3 pm December 9, 2014 811 Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 3 pm Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 3 pm Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 3 pm Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 3 pm and 7 pm 2. That the organizational meeting for 2015 shall be held on Tuesday, January 12, 2016, at 2:00 p.m. On motion of Supervisor McNamara to adopt the resolution, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None A -120914-8.b A -120914-8.c A -120914-8.d A -120914-8.e IN RE: REPORTS Supervisor Bedrosian requested an explanation for each report and suggested that these reports be shown on air. He then moved to receive and file the following reports. The motion carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None 1. General Fund Unappropriated Balance 2. Capital Reserves 3. Reserve for Board Contingency 4. Outstanding Debt Chairman McNamara adjourned the meeting from 7:04 p.m. until 7:48 812 December 9, 2014 IN RE: REPORTS AND INQUIRIES OF BOARD MEMBERS Supervisor Moore stated five years ago Governor Kaine said that he would honor our public safety responders who gave their lives to protect others by building a public safety memorial. This weekend on the capital grounds in Richmond, this memorial was dedicated. It was the first Virginia Safety Memorial ever. There were 870 names read and put on the wall. The honorees included the first recorded line of duty desk, which was in 1823 through May, 2014. Through the encouragement and leadership of three (3) governors and the hard work of the Public Safety Memorial Foundation and the Board of Directors and the many donors who worked tirelessly for five (5) years. The memorial was dedicated to the Commonwealth of Virginia and would like to thank all of them for their dedication on this project. She stated she would like to thank Governor Kaine, O'Donnell and McAlliffe for their persistence in making this happen; it was an incredible ceremony and would like to thank everyone who attended. This is the time of year when we have an opportunity to spend time with family and friends and to express our gratitude toward them. She thanked all 900 employees who work for Roanoke County. It is because of all of them that we continue to have a County government that operated in continuity and serves our citizens well. She stated she would like to name every single employee and thank you personally, but knows she only has ten (10) minutes and knows she would not be able to do that, but she would like to recognize six (6) of our employees who have been with us almost forty-five (45) years: Victoria A. Webb, Charles L. Patsail, Ralph "Chuck" Mason, Jr., James M. Harrison, Frank J. Greenway and Willie J. Bryant. She thanked all the Department Heads and Constitutional Officers for their leadership and their staff and employees for their dedication and service. Ms. Moore then wished everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy Kwanzaa. Supervisor Bedrosian stated he did want to go back a little bit to what Supervisor Church had mentioned because he had a good point. On the Social Services Building, it was mentioned several times that the reason the Social Services Building was not done because of the Vinton library. The reality is on this Board, we all have things that we vote on and years ago it was the Green Ridge Center and in his view not what government should be spending it's money on and now libraries have become the thing and they are multi-million dollar libraries. The other thing that I want to state is that may be true, there may not have been money for the Social Service building because we are building an $11 million Vinton Library; that is true, but it also illustrates a point that on this Board, even for past actions, there are consequences on every action that we make. Again, he is not saying whether one thing is wrong or right. He thinks people have to vote what their constituents are talking about and asking for and whether it is the right thing, but he does want to stress the point that there are consequences so if we use a certain amount of money to build this building it will come to the point whereby we don't have the money for something else unless we take it out of money that we have been saving here in the capital projects. We would reduce that December 9, 2014 813 by $1.5 million. The bottom line to governance is that decisions do have consequences and ask all to really think very hard when we spend money. It is not our money; it is the people's money, the citizens money, that they give to us to spend and we really should be limiting it to things that are absolutely vital. When we start spending money on things that are not absolutely vital, a nice to have project, things like the Recreation Center, water tower. What that says is the Board is taking money away and one day there is going to be something very, very important and we are not going to be able to do it without borrowing money to do it. Those are the tough decisions that we have to make. He would agree with the Supervisor from Catawba, but that is the way it is and it makes it more difficult to vote yes on projects that we just don't have the money for. Also, he thanked the Chairman for the State of the County address. It was good to hear things out in the open like that and the Chairman did talk about wanting to eliminate debt, reducing debt. Supervisor Bedrosian stated he thinks they think alike on these things, however, the tough thing is actually doing it. We mentioned the fact that the debt is $180 million and now we are back up to $190 million and the statement has been made and also in the County address, if we continue on our path that we have set up with the School system, we would basically get out of debt and not be in debt if we followed the path. He is trying to find out how we do that. Citizens in Roanoke County really need to think about this. Again, we spend money, when he was running for office the number was $200 million and we started paying off the debt, which is good and responsible. We started making the payments like we always do, some goes to interest some goes to principal. This number got down to $170 million and then it creeps back up and $180 million in October and went down even more, but now we added another $20 million to it and it is back up to $190 million. He thinks there are two different things we are looking at here. We may not go any higher than $200 million, but he cannot see how unless tough decisions are made that we are actually going to get ourselves out of debt and that is going to take some really strong decisions by this Board. He stated he sees that the Board may not add to the deficit anymore and our number will stay around $180 million to $200 million all the time, but he cannot see how we will ever get out of debt. He thinks we need to get out of debt and wants to remind people as this is our last meeting for the year that the reason that is so important is that we basically pay about three to four percent (3 to 4%) interest, which is up to $8 million in interest payments a year; $8 million of hard-earned, tax payer money that comes in and goes out to pay interest. If any of you ever listen to Dave Ramsey, who is a great financial guy, he says when you go into debt, it is basically because you want something and you want it now and that is not the way we should be operating. It is nice to have things, but when you want it and you want it now, it becomes irresponsible and it adds to debt. He stated he thinks we need to be a lot more responsible about that. He saw in the paper that Buena Vista just defaulted on a $10 million bond yesterday and saw the story this morning. They built a municipal golf course years ago and now defaulted because they cannot pay the payment on the $10 million debt. The vote was four or five to one; one person thought they should continue to pay and do something else, but the others voted 814 December 9, 2014 no. This is getting close to home. When you think about these governments defaulting on loans, you don't think around here, but now right here in Buena Vista. He is curious to see how that ends up and thinks it should be a lesson to us. Hopefully, they do repay that debt and do not default on it. Finally, it is Christmas, and it is a great time of the year. He thanked his colleagues, stating they haven't always agreed on issues, but he loves it, this is what a representative republic is all about. We all have the ability to vote like we want based on our conscience and based on what we think government should be for and we are all friends afterwards. It is a good process; it is the way it should be done. He is thankful to all his colleagues, agree or disagree on issues that they can stand here and work together. He is thankful to the Administration, he appreciates everybody and he asks a lot of questions; he is not the most intelligent guy, which is why he asks a lot of questions. He appreciates staff always finding an answer for him. Merry Christmas. Supervisor Church stated first of all he wanted to thank God for good health and this Board and for the opportunity to agree to disagree. He has always thought and he could not help when the gentleman from the Sheriff's Department talked about being poor, but we had our mother telling us that there is never a right way to do something wrong; always thank God for what you have. At the end of the day, we can be passionate up here about any item we can think of, but it should never come to the part where we want the other one to trip over a rock in the parking lot. Life is just bigger than that. He has always said that disagreement can be very healthy. Five -zero votes sometimes can indicate that nobody is paying attention. Good ideas come from different people. So, we have a wonderful group of employees here. We have a good staff; good Administration. He knows that financially we could do things left or right or a little differently. He is thankful for all the people working for Roanoke County, for the place that we live, which is one of the greatest places in the Country in his opinion. He is very thankful that God has always given him the chance to be elected to serve. It is a big responsibility and he takes it as a sacred trust; he is very thankful for that. He has always thought like his mother said, if every season could be like Christmas, "Here let me hold the door for you, if you need $5, here take $7." The rest of the time we don't see that person coming into the store and falling down. We are too busy in our own world to say, "Let me help you." Next, a zero -based budgeting with some people who have run for office in the past well before Supervisor Bedrosian and zero -based budgeting in his opinion and he is not a financial person, it is impossible to start at year 157 287 48 or whatever year because if we started with zero and did not buy something or build something until we had the money, Roanoke County would be in dire shape because he wished we could have the money to repair things, maintenance, schools, fire trucks, police cars, whatever. If we waited until we save the money, we would continuously be playing catch up and the money would not be used wisely. Somewhere between that and where we are, we need to find a way to help control our debt; he does not think we will ever be debt free. He does not think it is possible. In the world with everything changing so much, maybe it is not possible, but to strive to do things that are December 9, 2014 815 logical, fair and that is what he is all about. This Board is five (5) districts. Let's be sure that we try to treat each other fair, no matter if it is a four -one majority, five -zero or any other combination. We need to take a look and see, not about the districts but the 20,000 people in that area. Let's do what we can to make sure that they have a seat at the table. This is important to him. Supervisor Church then asked the camera to be zeroed in pictures of Dry Hollow Road that VDOT went over and above the call of duty in his opinion. There has been a project there with the train trestle underpass, which makes it totally impossible for two cars to know they are coming to meet each other. Norfolk Southern cannot move the train trestle; millions and millions of dollars and we did not have the money. Long story short, we went into a secondary road plan back in 1999, bottom line is he wants to thank the VDOT people. He then asked the Clerk to get a letter ready with his signature to send out in particular he wants to thank publically, Ken King, our Regional Operations Director at VDOT; Chris McDonald, Regional Traffic Engineer, Raymond Low, the Assistant Residency Administrator; Pat Bower, Maintenance Operations Manager; Brian Blevins, Area Land Use Engineer, Ann Booker, Traffic Engineering Regional Services Manager; the entire VDOT Salem Residency and VDOT Salem District Regional Operations; their crews performed the field work, line painting and sign erection. From the County, Richard Caywood and David Holliday, special thank you because this is an item that it would take in the millions to widen and build a new road; there is no money. With some ingenuity we met with Delegate Greg Habeeb and want to thank him for hosting the meeting. We kept pushing and we widened a little bit at the edge and put up a barrier and a stop sign and signals and we are still tweaking it, but these folks and he is one of the first to complain that VDOT won't do anything, etc. Well, they did; they need to be congratulated it has been a file that has been in the media for many years and on his watch since he got here 15 years as the senior member; he has been after it forever and forever. Finally, is it a total fix, no, but it is the best option we have had so far and maybe we can make even better improvements. Now, congrats to Northside High School for a great football season. It came to an abrupt ending Magna Vista High School on November 28, 2014; but it is great to say that Magna Vista is playing for the State Championship so they did not lose to any candy store team. In the meantime, Glenvar Highlanders continue to impress. They won the first few rounds in the State playoffs defeating a good Union Team 13-6 this past Saturday and dispatched another great team Nottoway 34-17 in the pouring down rain, cold, driving down rain and he knows because he was there. Glenvar will now play their first ever in their history for the State championship at Salem Stadium, right in our own backyard. We get to go to the fancy stadium this coming Saturday at 4:30 p.m. and we are going to be sitting on the Press Box side. We will be playing a Wilson Memorial team who is 13-1 and we are 13-1. Coach Kevin Clifford came out of Patrick Henry in Roanoke City and has just done a phenomenal job. Unbelievable, the coaching staff with what they have done there. Joe Haffey, the principal there instills "highlander Heaven" in the staff, the teachers and whatever; it is just unbelievable. He stated he wanted to talk about how far Glenvar has come. I know 816 December 9, 2014 many of you have heard of Giles High School, three-year defending champions. Glenvar went up to play them for first place three or four weeks ago and just got pounded, 33 to 0. Guess who we played in the third round in the playoffs back to Giles, who would imagine. We shut them out 35-0, which is unbelievable if you know anything about sports. With 14 seconds left in the first half, Glenvar is winning 7-0; 14 seconds later, it's 28-0 at halftime; three touchdowns in fourteen seconds. He was not there as he was out of town and Giles had to have gone into the locker room shaking their heads saying, "What train hit us?" Please try to come out this coming Saturday at 4:30. Glenvar will play for their first championship in the history of the school at Salem Stadium. He further advised the Clerk that he will help with the letter to thank these people and asked Mr. Caywood to assist in getting it to the Residency and let them know how appreciative we are they went out of their way and made a lot happen with little monies and want them to know how much he appreciates it. Merry Christmas to everyone; stay well and happy. Supervisor Peters stated as many know he has been on the Board the same length of time as Mr. Bedrosian, we were both sworn in last year and had a great opportunity yesterday to speak to someone about his first year on the Board and his thoughts and thought he would share a little bit of that with the audience today. One of the first things he said was that he was a little frustrated because the Board had not accomplished much as he would have thought, but he learned very quickly that government moves slow. Personally, this first year has given him a great time to understanding what goes on in the County, how it operates, what the needs are and maybe it was good that the first year was kind of slow. Even though the Board may not have accomplished everything as he would have liked to seen, he has to say, we have some wonderful departments. Our CommlT has received National awards, our Fire and Rescue has received as we have seen here again today, our Police Department under Chief Hall, our libraries as we heard today and he was notified by email this morning that the Virginia Recreation Parks Society awards four awards to Roanoke County Parks, Recreation and Tourism; they went against all of their peers in the Commonwealth of Virginia. This is remarkable, Doug, good job. He also thanked Chairman McNamara for leading us through a difficult year. Our Administrator left, Fire Chief gave his resignation and leading us in his opinion to pick up an extraordinary person in Tom Gates, who will help lead the County hopefully for many years to come and has also led us through countless distractions that have tried to take us off course. He thanked Dan O'Donnell for stepping in when needed; you have done a great job. Above and beyond all of that, he thanked all the employees of Roanoke County. Because this Board and Administration cannot do anything without the employees, they are the ones that make it happen. You come in day in and day out. You do your job and the proof that you are doing your job is again what he mentioned earlier the awards this County keeps receiving. As he speaks for many people as he moves all around the County, he hears nothing but good things even down to our trash collectors. People have told him how polite they are. Again, he just wanted to say thank you to all of our December 9, 2014 817 employees and lastly hopes that everyone will have a safe holiday season. Merry Christmas. Chairman McNamara thanked Supervisor Peters for his kind words. This is our last meeting of the year and he thinks it is kind of nice since it is earlier in the month so that people can spend time with their families and it is not a time when people are doing rezonings, etc. He thinks it is a new thing to have the one meeting in December. He thinks it is appropriate. The gentleman from Vinton mentioned Tom Gates; we are absolutely delighted and excited to have him joining us. So, at our next meeting we will have Tom Gates sitting over in Dan's chair or over and down one and he thinks that is going to be really exciting. We are also going to see come January a number of things from a strategic direction as a Board. We raise a lot of good questions. We need to decide what our priorities are. If debt is our number one priority, we can solve that problem. If maintaining a locality of our size without having a Stormwater Management Fee going forward is our policy, we can do that. If we want to continue to fund schools and infrastructure improvements, we can do that. If you want to lower taxes, we can do that. Can we do all of those things at one time without significantly, in his opinion, seriously impacting our service level; we cannot. So, we need to decide what is our priority and how do we want to structure how we want it to be. Really, the success we can do from a strategic direction planning workshop and putting together our priorities are not going to be items one, two or three year fixes. They are multiyear fixes that will put Roanoke County in a much better position ten to twenty (10 to 20) years from now. To pat ourselves on the shoulders, a lot of this was done a number of years ago so not many people realize that we have capital improvements program that is funded without our current budget for both the County Schools and the County Administration. So, that will be completely funded this year, so now we can decide that we can continue to incease funding for that program, which would in effect lower debt or we can decide we want to do some other things. It is on our schedule for January and it is pretty exciting for that. I do appreciate the opportunity to be Chairman and lead this Board this and thank you all for your support. Our County employees has already been said by three or four Board members already do a great job; they always have. We are really blessed in Roanoke County to have some great employees that care about citizens. Quite frankly, we represent some great citizens too; just wonderful people and a pleasure to be around. Citizens that are concerned about things and ninety-nine percent (99%) of the time wonderful to deal with so he certainly does enjoy that. He cannot leave without touching on Dave Ramsey. Dave Ramsey will not be his investment advisor; he does not have a lot of faith in a fellow that suggested an eight percent (8%) withdrawal rate for retirees, which is probably double the generally accepted guidelines or someone who has been bankrupt himself in the late 1980's. We are going to continue to rely on good, sound financial principles and our great finance staff and continue to get the rating agencies to give us the ratings that they have been. It has been a good year. 818 December 9, 2014 At 6:17 p.m. Chairman McNamara recessed to the 4t" floor for work session and closed meeting. IN RE: CLOSED MEETING At 6:16 p.m. Chairman McNamara moved to go into closed meeting following the work session pursuant to the Code of Virginia Section 2.2.3711.A.3 Discussion or consideration of the acquisition of real property for a public purpose, or the disposition of publicly held real property, where discussion in an open meeting would adversely affect the bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the Board of Supervisors (419 Library). The motion carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYES: None The closed meeting was held from 6:31 p.m. until 6:53 p.m. IN RE: CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION At 7:04 p.m., Chairman McNamara moved to return to open session and adopt the certification resolution. RESOLUTION 120914-9 CERTIFYING THE CLOSED MEETING WAS HELD IN CONFORMITY WITH THE CODE OF VIRGINIA WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia has convened a closed meeting on this date pursuant to an affirmative recorded vote and in accordance with the provisions of The Virginia Freedom of Information Act; and WHEREAS, Section 2.2-3712 of the Code of Virginia requires a certification by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, that such closed meeting was conducted in conformity with Virginia law. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia, hereby certifies that, to the best of each member's knowledge - 1 . nowledge:1. Only public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements by Virginia law were discussed in the closed meeting which this certification resolution applies; and 2. Only such public business matters as were identified in the motion convening the closed meeting were heard, discussed or considered by the Board of Supervisors of Roanoke County, Virginia. December 9, 2014 • On Motion of Supervisor McNamara to adopt the resolution, and carried by the following recorded vote: AYES: Supervisors Moore, Bedrosian, Church, Peters, McNamara NAYS: None IN RE: WORK SESSIONS 1. Work session to provide the National Incident Management System (NIMS) overview (Richard E. Burch, Jr., Chief of Fire and Rescue) Chief Burch gave a brief overview and turned the meeting over to Deputy Chief Joey Stump who provided the Board with a PowerPoint presentation, a copy of which is on file in the office of the Clerk to the Board of Supervisors and provided the necessary training information. The work session was held from 7:04 p.m. until 7:48 p.m. IN RE: ADJOURNMENT Chairman McNamara adjourned the meeting at 7:49 p.m. S44mitted by: Approved by: Deborah C. J P. 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