HomeMy WebLinkAbout5/10/2022 - Minutes oritte ROANOKE COUNTY
P PLANNING COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES
MAY 10, 2022
Commissioners Present:
Mr. Kelly McMurray, Chairman
Mr. Wayne Bower
Mr. Rick James
Mr. Jim Woltz
Commissioners Absent:
Mr. Troy Henderson, Vice-Chairman
Board of Supervisors Present:
Ms. Martha Hooker
Mr. Paul Mahoney
Mr. Phil North
Mr. Jason Peters
Mr. David Radford
Staff Present:
Mr. Phillip Thompson, Secretary
Ms. Rachel Lower, Senior Assistant County Attorney
Mr. Alex Jones
Ms. Cecelia Thomas, Recording Secretary
Guest Speakers Present:
Nick Britton, Michael Baker International
Mike Callahan, Renaissance Planning
WORK SESSION
Call to Order
Mr. McMurray called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
Joint Meeting with the Board of Supervisors —419 Town Center Design
Guidelines
Mr. Thompson noted that the Board of Supervisors implemented the 419 Town Center
Plan in July of 2019. The Board of Supervisors and the Planning Commission always
knew a design element would be needed for development. Mr. Thompson overviewed
the process of hiring the consultants and introduced them. Mr. Britton discussed the
community engagement and noted the key comments from citizens in the County. Mr.
Britton reviewed the history of the project and noted the Office of Intermodal Planning
under a Growth and Accessibility Planning (GAP) technical assistance grant. He
reviewed the goals of the project. He noted their goal is to give direction and framework
for design, he noted they do not specify how it should be done as that is dependent on
many variables. However, they are able to make suggestions that might or might not
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work. He noted they received a lot of positive feedback at the community meetings. He
overviewed some of the feedback they received. He noted they heard a lot of comments
about the continued success of existing businesses. He explained that this influenced
their recommendation of doing things gradually or in phases. Connectivity and
accessibility concerns were raised at the community meeting which encouraged them to
layout a street design system that will elevate the pedestrian experience. They noted
that their goal is to honor the principles that the County has regarding design while
ensuring they are not discouraging businesses from coming to the County. He noted
that there were also concerns about green space and green space connectivity which
they attempted to address with street network changes. He noted they make many
suggestions regarding greenway connectivity that they are happy to review. He
introduced his colleague Mr. Callahan.
Mr. Callahan discussed the key design principles based on the feedback they received
from the community. He noted that walkability and short block lengths are important to
create a park once environment. He noted early discussions of demand, and would the
Route 419 area be able to grow. He noted that there are many economic reasons to be
in Roanoke County. He noted that this region is known throughout Virginia for its
outdoor activities and greenways. He noted that it is their belief that building the market
to emphasize Roanoke's marketability for its outside activities is best for the plan. He
noted that them is normally a main street to encourage walkability. They believe that
Starkey Road will be that for the Route 419 area. He noted that can continue long-term
to the Tanglewood area. He stated that the roads are the framework for creating the
plan. Mr. Mahoney questioned why you would not want to make Route 419 the main
walkable road. Mr. Callahan noted that Route 419 is not really the main street, not many
people are going to want to live or bike right next to it. He continued by saying that
Route 419 is a great road for getting people from place to place, but does not
encourage walkability. He noted long-term Starkey Road is more ideal as it would be
more suited for building up next to the road. Mr. North questioned how to encourage
property owners to adhere to design guidelines. Mr. Callahan noted that this is 30 years
down the line, and is meant to set a framework for down the line. Mr. Woltz commented
that it would be important to create a zoning ordinance that focuses on the long term.
Mr. Callahan noted that the theme of the plan is flexibility. He noted that having flexibility
will help things evolve in a big box area like Tanglewood. Mr. North noted that what
comes to his mind regarding big box areas is Short Pump Town Center. He questioned
how people will be able to traverse Route 419. Mr. Callahan noted that pedestrian
bridges did not seem like a good option. He noted that the best way is to put crosswalks
at a signal where there can be a safe crossing for pedestrians. Mr. Thompson noted the
need to incentivize to create small improvements over time.
Mr. Callahan overviewed road frontage. He discussed potential character districts and
design elements such as step backs and setbacks. He reviewed design intent and the
basic elements of the design. He noted that having people park behind the buildings is
key to creating a walkable space. He overviewed the framework pieces in the design.
He noted mixed-use and creating an urban environment is preferred and will really help
with making the space walkable. He discussed sustainable development, distinctive
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architecture, and space for pop-up events. He clarified that this is design guidance, not
a list of what has to be done.
Mr. Britton discussed different ways to get developers interested in the space. He noted
that if you make it easy for developers, they tend to be more willing to locate in your
area. He discussed how zoning needs to look at this from a long-term perspective. He
noted that phasing is one of the best tools for a long-term approach. He explained that
phasing allows slow development and changes over time. Mr. Britton discussed anchors
and incentives. He discussed the team element between the private sector and the
public sector. He explained that buildings for public infrastructure appeal to developers
by creating more interest in an area. Mr. James questioned if any anchors were
recommended during talks with local developers. Mr. Britton noted that parks and green
spaces are recommended, especially with residential as a part of mixed uses. He noted
many businesses are incentivized by the infrastructure. Mr. Radford questioned if
Henrico County was giving flexibility and options to developers, and Mr. Britton
explained the process they have in place. Mr. McMurray noted that he is in favor of
more outdoor spaces in the County, while not competing with the amphitheater in
Roanoke City. Mr. Radford discussed his first experience on a walkable neighborhood.
Mr. Mahoney questioned what Charlottesville did in terms of the regulatory oversight
twenty years ago. Mr. Callahan noted that the mall they are discussing was built in
1976. He noted that they reintroduced cross-traffic, had small block sizes, and they had
a service district area there. He noted they have a mechanism in place to provide a
higher level of service. Mr. Mahoney noted that his philosophical approach is to make it
a by-right use, but he sees the problems of not having regulatory obligations. He gave
the example of the new restaurants being built at Tanglewood that do not have
sidewalks to them for ease of access for mall employees or pedestrians. Mr. Radford
noted that providing the structure will make it much easier to sell the guidelines.
Mr. Thompson discussed reviewing the standards for parking in the zoning ordinance.
Mr. Britton noted that not being as restrictive on by-right uses. Mr. Thompson discussed
wanting to use the guidelines to use submit future Smart Scale applications. Mr. North
commented that he is not thrilled to see the out parcels at Tanglewood being built facing
the wrong direction for pedestrian activity. Mr. Woltz noted he did not like it either, but
did not see how they can control it. Mr. James noted the answer is to incentivize rather
than to require. Mr. Thompson explained the Blackwater has had to negotiate some of
the leases with existing businesses for the out parcels to be allowed. He noted that it
will take time for things to change, but as more things come over time they will spur
more development. Mr. Mahoney noted that the outparcels did meet some of the criteria
mentioned in the 419 area plan. Mr. Callahan noted than many owners along Route 419
and Starkey Road have noted how they would like sidewalks. Mr. Thompson spoke to
by-right uses along Route 419, and noted that traffic will reduce as more public transit is
offered. He noted that when they have passed the Comprehensive Plan and are
working on the Zoning Ordinance, they will incorporate parts of the plan into the Zoning
Ordinance. He noted that he sees the Incentives and guidelines evolving over time so
that it is not super stringent at the beginning and discourages development. He believes
that the incentives are the biggest piece to be focused on. Mr. Woltz noted that he
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would love to see a village area in the more rural areas of the County. Mr. Caywood
noted that he came to work at Roanoke County in 2013, no one at that time would have
expected the development in the County that has happened since then. He stated that
it's easy to overlook the good if you only focus on the perfect.
Adjournment
With no further comments, Mr. McMurray adjourned the meeting at 6:39 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted:
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Cia Thomas
Recordin Secretary, Roanoke County Planning Commission
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Secretary, Roanoke County Planning Commission
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Kell rray
Chairman, Roano • ty Planning Commission
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