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ROANOKE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
NOVEMBER 7, 2006
CommissionersPresent:
Mr. Steve Azar (arrived after the worksession)
Mr. Gary Jarrell
Mr. Rodney McNeil
Mr. Al Thomason
Ms. Martha Hooker
Staff Present:
Mr. Philip Thompson
Mr. Tarek Moneir
Mr. Joe Obenshain, Sr. Assistant County Attorney
Ms. Megan Cronise
Mr. Josh Gibson
Mr. Tim Beard
Ms. Susan Carter, Recording Secretary
Student Guests:
Adam Barton
Lauren Gaech
WORK SESSION:
Session opened at 4:02p.m. by Mr.Jarrell.
Approval of Agenda
Ms.Hookermoved to approve the agenda. Motion passed 4-0.
Approval of Minutes
Ms.Hooker moved to approve the October 3, 2006 PCPH minutes.
Motion passed 4-0. Mr.McNeilmoved to approve theOctober 24, 2006
PCWS minutesas amended. Motion passed4-0.
Approval of Consent Agenda
Mr.Thomasonmoved to approve the consent agenda. Motion passed 4-
0.
Planning Commission Bylaws
Ms. Hooker inquired about notice of meetingrequirements. Mr.
Thompson and Mr. Obenshain discussed requirements. Ms. Hooker
moved to approve the revised Planning Commission Bylaws. Motion
passed 4-0.
Comments
There were no comments.
Site Viewing
The meeting was adjourned for site viewing at4:30p.m.
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EVENING SESSION:
Mr. Azar called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Ms.Hooker gave the
invocation and led the pledge of allegiance.
Old Business
1.The petition of Wayne Fralinto obtain a Special Use Permit for the
construction of a mini-warehouse facility on 14.76 acres, located at
5627 Williamson Road, Hollins Magisterial District. Ms. Megan
Cronise, Roanoke County Planning Department, presented the staff
report.
Mr. Ed Natt, Esquire, spoke representing the petitioner. He
provided a brief history of the petition. He discussed citizen
concerns discussed at the September5, 2006 Planning
Commission Hearing. He requested the commissioners consider
permitting an aluminum fence instead of wrought ironfence. He
also noted the placement of utility poles on the concept plan is
tentative. Mr.Jarrell stated aluminum fencing would require less
maintenance. Mr. McNeil inquired about the fence surrounding the
property. Mr. Natt stated the fence would be installed for security
purposes with barbed wire around the top except on the
neighborhood side. Mr. Azar expressed concern regarding barbed
wire on the fencing. Ms. Cronise explained this was not staff’s
recommendation. Mr. Natt explained Dr. Fralin requested the
barbed wire to provide more security for the mini-warehouses. Mr.
Jarrell stated the barbed wire would protect stored belongings and
secure the property. Mr. McNeil stated the barbed wire would
deter thieves and offer better security. He inquired about protecting
the viewshed. Mr. Natt stated adequate screening would be
provided. Ms. Cronise explained landscapingoptions.Mr. Azar
complimented Ms. Cronise on her research and presentation.
Mr. Jarrell then made the motion to recommend approval of the
request with the following conditions:
1)The site shall be developed in substantial conformance with the
Preliminary Site Plan for Wayne Fralin, Safe Place Storage
Units, dated December 22, 2005 and revised through October
16, 2006 and prepared by LMW, P.C., except that aluminum
fencing will be utilized instead of wrought iron fencing; and
2)Option 2 shall be utilized to screen stored vehicles from the
Bonhill Drive residences, as shown on sheets 4 and 5 of the
Preliminary Site Plan for Wayne Fralin, Safe Place Storage
Units, dated December 22, 2005 and revised through October
16, 2006 and prepared by LMW, P.C.
The motion passed by a vote of 5-0.
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AYES:Thomason, Azar, McNeil, Hooker, Jarrell
NAYS:None
ABSENT:None
Public HearingPetitions:
1.The petition of Laura Quarles toobtain a Special Use Permit to
operate a commercial indoor sports and recreation facilityon 1.53
acres, located at 7525 Hitech Road,HollinsMagisterial District.
(Withdrawn at the request of the petitioner)
2.The petition of Hidden Valley Villas, LLC torezone 24.46 acres
from R-1, Low Density Residential, to R-3,Medium Density Multi-
Family Residential, in order to construct multi-family dwellings at a
maximum density of 5.15 dwelling units per acre, located at 4800
(Continued until
Keagy Road, Windsor Hills Magisterial District.
December 5, 2006 at the request of the petitioner)
3.The petition of Chris McMurry toobtain a Special Use Permit to
construct townhouses on 1.264 acres at a maximum density of 9.5
dwelling units per acre, located near the intersection of Route 648
and Route 11,HollinsMagisterial District.Mr. Josh Gibson,
Roanoke County Planning Department, presented the staff report.
Mr. Jarrell expressed concern regarding the ability of emergency
vehicles to make u-turns in the cul-de-sac. He inquired about Fire
& Rescue coverage. Mr. Gibson explained coverage. Mr. Jarrell
inquired about impact on schools. Mr. Gibson discussed impacts
on schools. Mr. McNeil inquired about elevationsand exterior
standards. Mr. Gibson provided photocopies received earlier
today. He discussed designed standards. Mr. Azar inquired about
property access and stormwater management. Mr. Gibson
explained both issues. Mr. Azar inquired about land disturbance.
Mr. Gibson stated the petitioner plans towork with the contours of
the land according to the proposed plan. He stated the parking
area will need to be graded. Mr. McNeil inquired about the type of
stormwater pondand buffering of the pond. Mr. Gibson stated it
will be a dry pond.He stated no buffering plans were submitted
with the current plans.
Mr. Chris McMurry spoke regarding the petition. He explained the
concept plan including landscaping and gradingplans.He stated
since they are unsure of the stormwater pond size requirements for
this site,they did not include it on the current plan. He discussed
proposed plantings. He discussed stormwater management. He
stated dumpsters will be screened by a wooden fence. Mr. Jarrell
requested more details regarding dumpsters. Mr. McMurry
discussed the location and screening. Mr. Jarrell inquired about
hoursdumpsters could be emptied. Mr. McMurry deferred the
question to Mr. Rob Baba. Mr. McNeil inquired about parking
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requirements. Mr. Gibson discussed the concept plan. Mr. McNeil
asked about roadside parking. Mr. McMurry stated parking would
be allowed only in the designated parking area. Mr. Gibson and
Ms. Cronise discussed parking requirements.
Mr. Rob Baba, Courtesy Investment Group, LLC, spoke regarding
the petition. Mr. Jarrell inquired about the hours dumpsters would
be emptied. Mr. Baba stated they would have hours which are
agreeable with residents. Mr. McNeil suggested placing a condition
restricting time dumpsters could be emptied. Mr. Obenshain
stated the noise ordinance would likely control this issue. Mr.
Gibson stated noise complaints are referred to the police
department. Mr. Jarrell inquired about by-right building. Mr.
Thompson stated six single family homes could be built with current
zoning with all fronting Williamson Road. Ms. Hooker expressed
safety concerns if individual driveways would empty directly onto
Williamson Road if by-right homes are built. Mr. McNeil asked
about driveway access with proposed development. Mr. Gibson
stated the petitioner will have to confirm plans with VDOT for a
commercial entrance. Mr. Azar stated townhomes are a better fit
with one entrance for the development. Mr. Jarrell expressed
concern regarding the u-turns of emergency vehicles. He noted the
impact on the schools would not be excessive.
Mr. Jarrell then made the motion to recommend approval of the
request with the following conditions:
1.Substantial conformance with the submitted conceptual
plans dated 11/1/06 and prepared by McMurry Surveyors,
Inc. to include the following: Type A landscaping shall be
installedat the northern property boundaries (bounding
parcel # 027.08-02-30.00 and parcel # 027.08-02-29.00); on
the eastern property boundary, a Type A buffer shall be
installed along the eastern boundary (bounding parcel #
027.08-02-22.00) except at Lot #8 on the conceptual plan,
where a modified Type A landscape buffer shall be installed
where width requirements will be a minimum of 10 feet.
2.Light poles shall be downward-facing, limited to a maximum
height of 10 feet, and shall be of a style that conforms to the
Williamson Road Hollins Village Masterplan Design
Guidelines.
3.Signs adjacent to Williamson Road shall be limited to one (1)
monument-type sign.
4.The townhouse groups shall incorporate staggered front and
rear setbacks so that no single group contains more than
two (2) units with like front and rear setbacks.
The motion passed by a vote of 5-0.
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AYES:Thomason, Azar, McNeil, Hooker, Jarrell
NAYS:None
ABSENT:None
Final Orders
Mr. Philip Thompson presented the Final Orders.
1.The petition of The Rebkee Companyto rezone 4.494 acres from R-
1, Low Density Residential, to C-2,General Commercial, in order to
construct a retail sales facility, located at 3909 Challenger Avenue
was
and 3911 Challenger Avenue,VintonMagisterial District
approved by the Board of Supervisors at the Public Hearing on
October 24, 2006.
2.The petition of Virginia Living Histories, Inc.to review proposed water
and sewer line extensionsto Explore Park per section 15.2-2232of
theCode of Virginiafor consistency with the adopted Community
Plan, located at 3900 Rutrough Road,VintonMagisterial District
was approved by the Board of Supervisors at the Public Hearing
onOctober 24, 2006.
3.The petition of Holrob Investments, LLC to rezone 4.1+acres from
AR, Agricultural Residential District, to C-2,General Commercial, and
CVOD, Clearbrook Village Overlay District, and to obtain a special
use permit to operate a retail sales establishment with gross floor
area greater than 50,000 square feet, garden center, and minor
automobile repair facility on 41+acres, located in the 5200 block of
Franklin Road, Stable Road, Clearbrook Lane, Singing Hills Road,
was approved by
and Sunset Drive, Cave Spring Magisterial District
the Board of Supervisors at the Public Hearing onOctober 24,
2006.
Comments
Mr. Jarrell motioned to defer the next Planning Commission meeting to
December 5, 2006. The motion passed 5-0.
Mr. McNeil stated he would like more detailed informationbefore hearing
and voting on a petition. Ms. Hooker discussed that the petitioner wants
to see if the development is possible before substantially investing in the
project. Mr. Thompson stated the concept plan is presented until detailed
engineering can be acquired later in the development process. Mr. Azar
stated he would like as much information as possible prior to the Planning
Commission Public Hearing.
Ms. Hooker inquired about Explore Park. Mr. Thompson provided an
update. Mr. Thomason expressed concern regarding continuances. He
statedthe petitionersneed more definitive reasons to postpone hearings.
He suggested requiring more information at the time of application. Mr.
Thompsondiscussed options. Mr. Azar stated petitions should betabled
and not placedon the agenda if the information packets for the PC and
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BOS are not identical. Mr. Thompson and Mr. Obenshain explained
options of the BOS. Mr. Jarrell stated some cases are broughtbefore the
PC to see the type of questions which will be asked at the BOShearing.
Adjournment
There being no additional business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:16
p.m.
Respectfully Submitted:
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Susan Carter
Recording Secretary, Roanoke County Planning Commission
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Philip Thompson
Secretary, Roanoke County Planning Commission
Approved:
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Steve Azar
Chairman, Roanoke County Planning Commission
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