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ROANOKE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
AUGUST 10, 2004
Present:
Mr. Al Thomason, Chairman
Ms. Martha Hooker
Mr. Rodney McNeil
Mr. Gary Jarrell
Mr. Arnold Covey
Ms. Janet Scheid
Ms. Susan Carter, Recording Secretary
Absent:
Mr. Steve Azar
PUBLIC HEARING:
Mr. Thomason called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. Mr. Thomason
gave the invocation and led the pledge of allegiance.
Approval of Agenda
Mr. McNeil moved to approve the agenda as amended. Motion passed
4-0.
Petition
1. The amended petition of George Golf Design, Inc. to obtain a
Special Use Permit to develop and operate a golf course on 362
acres and rezone 115 acres from AG-3, Agricultural to AR,
Agricultural Residential, located at 3687 Pitzer Road, Vinton
Magisterial District. Ms. Janet Scheid presented the staff report.
Ms. Hooker requested more details regarding the maintenance
facility. Ms. Scheid stated the maintenance facility will be
developed as a separate entity, not by the petitioner. Ms. Hooker
requested more information regarding the Audubon Cooperative
Sanctuaries designation. Ms. Scheid explained Audubon
Cooperative is not directly affiliated with the National Audubon
Society. Ms. Hooker asked about traffic impacts. Ms. Scheid
stated VDOT’s counts are based on a composite of studies of
various courses. She stated these projections may be high
depending on the type of course which is developed. Mr. McNeil
asked about the level of service on Pitzer Road. Ms. Scheid stated
a traffic study would need to be conducted by an independent
engineering firm. Mr. McNeil expressed concern regarding Pitzer
Road’s ability to handle the increased traffic. Ms. Scheid noted the
residual property could currently be developed with 84 houses
without water and sewer. She stated with public water and sewer
system 135 houses could be constructed. Mr. McNeil inquired
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about public water and sewer facilities in the area. Ms. Scheid
stated although no definitive plans have been made, approximately
10 years ago the County submitted to the National Park Service a
map and accompanying list of possible future crossings of the
Parkway for public water and sewer. She stated one of the
locations was in the Mount Pleasant area. She also stated that any
plans to cross federal property with public utility lines would be
required to go through the federal permit review process including
environmental analysis. Mr. McNeil asked if the water/sewer
extension was currently on the CIP. Ms. Scheid stated she was not
aware of it being on the CIP. She stated the golf course is able to
operate on well and septic. Mr. Thomason asked if there would be
only one golf cart crossing. Ms. Scheid deferred the question to the
petitioner. She noted the Community Meetings were well attended
by citizens. She stated the Mount Pleasant Civic League was
unanimously in support of the golf course. She stated one citizen
expressed concern regarding the location of the maintenance
facility.
Mr. Lester George, George Golf Design, spoke regarding the
petition. He stated he has designed golf courses throughout the
country for 19 years. He stated his business is family owned. He
stated he has hired Mr. Eric Allen, Watershed Environmental
Consulting, to assist with the project and to analyze the wetlands
and streams on the property. He stated he is currently uncertain of
what type of golf club will be developed – public or private. He
stated they will take a hard look at the maintenance facility location
due to a citizen’s recommendation. Mr. McNeil asked when the golf
course developer would be brought into the project. Mr. George
stated that the first step is getting the SUP approved and he would
most likely get a local partner. He stated he hopes to acquire a
land disturbance permit by end of 2004. He stated they are
considering 4 development firms, 3 of which are local. He
explained he will remain strictly the architect of the project. Ms.
Hooker inquired about the Audubon Cooperative Sanctuary
certification. He explained it takes approximately 3 years to acquire
certification and in order to get certified you must pass rigorous
environmental requirements. Ms. Hooker asked about the reason
the entire project cannot be revealed at one time. Mr. George
stated the golf course needs to have residential for financial
support. He stated the golf course is his first priority. Mr. McNeil
asked if the petitioner’s plan will work with the proffered density.
Mr. George affirmed it would work with his plan. Ms. Hooker asked
if the 250 acres depicted on the concept plan for the golf course
was fairly accurate. Mr. George stated the course would be within
10 acres of the concept plan.
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Ms. Janet Corcoran, 3852 Pitzer Road, expressed concern
regarding the placement of the maintenance building. She stated
the proposed site is located in a dangerous curve. She stated she
is otherwise in favor of the golf course.
Ms. Ona Early, 3387 Mount Pleasant Boulevard, stated she is vice-
president of the Mount Pleasant Civic League and that the civic
league unanimously supported the golf course.
Ms. Shelby Cundiff, 316 Chestnut Mountain Drive, stated she is in
favor of the golf course but expressed concerns about future
residential development on the property. She requested the
petition not be accepted as a ‘piecemeal’ project since the impact
of the completed project on this area is unknown. She stated the
largest impact on this area would be the future housing
development. She encouraged the commission to protect the
community.
Ms. Elizabeth Abe, 6909 Mary B Place, expressed several
concerns regarding environmental impacts of the project. She
expressed concern regarding the depletion of the water table. She
stated the following items should be studied: waterways, soil type,
and topography. She stated since the project will create increased
traffic, a traffic impact study needs to be made of the area. She
expressed concern regarding the infrastructure needed for
increased density. She suggested considering fees and proffers
from developers. She asked the commission to look at the
complete project and not just the golf course. She expressed
concern regarding safety issues in the area since there are no
hydrants in the area.
Mr. George stated he has no connection with the residential
developers. He stated Roanoke County staff advised him future
development plans would need a separate rezoning. He explained
his concept plan and discussed sight distance issues.
Mr. Eric Allen, Watershed Environmental, spoke regarding
environmental issues. He stated there will be some impact to
intermittent stream channels. He stated they will go through the
permit process with DEQ and the Corps of Engineers. He stated
the golf course will be irrigated by on-site wells and that the
hydrologic study indicates there will be enough water to support the
golf course. He discussed the common water contaminants
present in the area. He stated they will operate in accordance with
EPA regulations.
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Mr. Thomason asked for clarification of the current petition. Ms.
Scheid explained the proposed rezoning and SUP. She explained
the golf course, maintenance building, storage building, and parking
areas will all be required to go through Site Plan Review prior to
construction. She explained if in the future greater density of the
property is desired, the property would need to be rezoned at that
time. Mr. McNeil suggested proffering a limit on density allowed.
Ms. Scheid explained the current density allowed. Ms. Hooker
stated the golf course is a great option for the area. She stated if a
future rezoning is required for increased density, they will need
more answers and solutions regarding infrastructure issues.
Mr. McNeil then made the motion to recommend approval of the
rezoning with the following conditions:
1. Residential density on tax maps #79.04-2-10, #79.04-2-10.1,
#79.04-2-10.2, #79.04-2-11 and #79.04-2-12 will be no
greater than 1 house per 3 acres (as currently allowed under
AG-3 zoning) unless a subsequent rezoning to Planned
Residential Development, per the Roanoke County Zoning
Ordinance, is approved.
AYES: Thomason, Hooker, McNeil, Jarrell
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Azar
Mr. McNeil then made the motion to recommend approval of the
SUP with the following conditions:
1. The chemicals used on the golf course shall minimize the
effect on ground water pollution.
2. The club house shall be constructed primarily of the
following exterior materials: stone, brick and wood.
AYES: Thomason, Hooker, McNeil, Jarrell
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Azar
Citzen Comments
Ms. Janet Turner, 3250 Randall Drive, stated she is in favor of the golf
course.
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Mr. Ron Chuman, 4328 Horseshoe Drive, stated he is hoping the golf
course will be a public course. Mr. George stated they will be developing
a business plan to determine the type of course in the near future.
Comments
Ms. Scheid reminded the PC of the PCWS, Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at
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4:00 p.m. in the 4 Floor Training Room at which Mr. Mike Chandler will
facilitate Comp Plan Revision discussion.
There being no additional business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:19
p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Approved:
Secretary, Roanoke County Planning Commission
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