HomeMy WebLinkAbout7/15/2021 - Work SessionMINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE TOWN OF VINTON PLANNING
COMMISSION HELD ON THURSDAY, JULY 15, 2021, AT 6 P.M., IN THE
TOWN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT THE VINTON MUNICIPAL BUILDING
MEMBERS PRESENT: Keith Liles, Chairman
David “Dave” Jones, Vice Chairman
Robert “Bob” Benninger
Sarah Reid
MEMBERS ABSENT: Andrew “Ty” Braxton
STAFF PRESENT: Richard Peters, Town Manager (at 6:30 p.m. and for a brief time)
Anita McMillan, Planning and Zoning Director
Nathan McClung, Assistant Planning and Zoning Director
Julie Tucei, Planning and Zoning Coordinator
AGENDA
WORK SESSION—6 P.M.
I. Call to Order—Roll Call
II. Overview of Upcoming Community Meeting on Ordinance Revisions (August)
1. Activity #1: Maximum temporary signage demonstration
2. Activity #2: Eight (8)-line measurement exercise
3. Activity #3: Square footage of various ADU layouts
4. Activity #4: ADU examples and voting on various regulations/requirements
5. Activity #5: Maximum parking and new requirement scenarios
6. Activity #6: RB and CB Districts dimensional changes
7. Activity #7: Homestay regulations
8. Activity #8: Landscaping ordinance scenario print-outs
9. Activity #9: Parking lot design activity
10. Activity #10: Potential stormwater impact demonstration
III. Outdoor Refreshment Areas (ORAs) in the Town of Vinton
1. Overview of new State Code provisions
2. Potential locations in the Town and drafted code language
IV. Miscellaneous Ordinance Topics Discussion
1. Proposed flag regulations
2. Proposed window coverage requirements for signs
V. Comments of Planning Commissioners and Planning Staff
VI. Adjournment
Mr. Liles welcomed everyone to the meeting and called it to order at 6 p.m. He asked Ms. Tucei for the
roll call. Ms. Tucei called the roll, and all members were present, except Mr. Braxton. The following
members of Town Staff were present: Richard Peters (at 6:30 p.m. and for a brief time), Anita McMillan,
Nathan McClung, and Julie Tucei.
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Mr. Liles called the first item on the agenda which was the overview of the upcoming community meeting
on ordinance revisions. Mr. McClung stated that it is important that the Town have an in-person meeting
about the revisions. He said it is critical. He said he is looking to have it in August, and it is planned to
be an interactive meeting held on a Saturday at the Charles R. Hill Community Center. Mr. McClung said
there will be exhibits and interactive displays. He showed the theme for the community meeting on the
TV screen which is, “A Penny for Your Thoughts”. Ms. McMillan asked the Planning Commission to let
staff know if they think the meeting should be held on a weekday instead of a Saturday. Mr. Jones
suggested that they provide some type of light food to help attract more people to the meeting. Mr.
McClung mentioned that the event is designed with the Charles R. Hill Community Center in mind. He
said that he initially considered combining the event with the Town’s National Night Out event, but
decided not to so that the focus can be solely on the Zoning Ordinance updates. Ms. McMillan said we
may still try to have the Police Department participate by serving hotdogs from their outreach trailer. Mr.
Jones said it will be an easy way for people to participate and be able to tell the Town what they like and
do not like about the proposed changes. He remembered when Mike Chandler did the onions and orchids
during a community meeting a few years ago, and he thought it would be good to look at that list and see
what has changed since then. Mr. McClung stated that he has taken their suggestions and comments and
made revisions to the zoning ordinance draft. He said he has already sent the draft to the Town’s attorneys
for review. He said he hopes to send it to Council for approval this fall.
Next, Mr. McClung went over the various activities that will be covered during the public outreach
meeting. The first was the maximum temporary signage demonstration. He showed in the PowerPoint
slideshow, a copy of which will be made a part of the permanent record of this meeting, an example of a
convenience store with the maximum number of signs displayed. He said this will show property and
business owners what they may be able to do under the new sign regulations. He stated that, during the
community event, he will use the Charles R. Hill Community Center building and property to display
sample signs showing how the new regulations will work.
The next activity is the eight line measurement exercise for measuring signage, which Mr. McClung
showed an example of in the PowerPoint presentation. Mr. McClung said this will be an interactive activity
for attendees of the outreach meeting to actually try their hand at doing an eight line measurement of a
sample sign.
Next are activities three and four which are the square footage of various ADU layouts and examples and
voting on the various regulations and requirements. He mentioned that 300 square feet is the minimum
size for an ADU, and that during the public meeting he will use heavy duty pavement tape to mark out
different examples of ADU layouts of various sizes including 300 square feet, 500 square feet, etc. He
said there will also be photos printed out on foam board showing some actual ADUs. Mr. McClung
mentioned that the minimum of 300 square feet will be enforced. He also stated that if someone has an
existing structure already on their property that is larger than the maximum allowed, they will still be able
to use it for an ADU.
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The fifth activity is the maximum parking and new requirements scenarios. Mr. McClung said he will use
chalk paint to mark parking spaces showing the current parking requirements and the proposed new
parking requirements.
The sixth activity is the RB and CB Districts dimensional changes. Mr. McClung said he will have
graphics on display that show how many things will be more in compliance after the new ordinance is
approved. He stated that, if approved, the maximum setback for CB will be 15 feet, and mentioned that at
the public meeting, he will flag the different required setback footages so that people can get a visual of
the setbacks. Mr. McClung also mentioned that he plans to use an Upwords game to build a small model
of downtown to show building heights, with each letter tile representing a certain amount of building
height. Mr. Liles asked if the Town has any buildings in downtown with four levels. Mr. McClung said
there are none currently, and the tallest is currently Vinton Baptist Church. He also mentioned that the
Fire and EMS building is very tall.
The seventh activity is the homestay regulations. Mr. McClung explained that this will be a piggy bank
activity where people will use pennies provided to them to vote on what they would like to see. The piggy
banks will be painted different colors by Planning Staff. Mr. McClung mentioned that we have kept this
event under budget by coming up with these types of random activities and ideas. Ms. McMillan said it
has helped to keep the costs down tremendously by having Mr. McClung rewrite the entire ordinance. Mr.
Liles said he would be happy to lend Mr. McClung the pennies for the voting, and he could get them back
after the event. Mr. McClung said that some pennies may be pocketed, though, if people don’t vote and
just pocket the money.
The eighth and ninth activities are landscaping ordinance scenario print-outs and a parking lot design
activity. Mr. McClung showed an example in the PowerPoint presentation of a sample building on Hardy
Road, which Mr. Liles mentioned is the former Kenny’s Restaurant building. Mr. McClung showed what
buffering and landscaping on the property could look like. Ms. McMillan stated that it really shows how
buffering and landscaping can change a property. Mr. McClung said this will be the most interactive
activity at the public meeting. He said that attendees will be able to build a miniature parking lot model.
He said staff will give them guidelines to follow such as every ten spaces would need to have one tree
planted. They will use railroad model items such as miniature trees and cars to build a model parking lot.
He said there will be three of these setups for people to try out at the meeting. Mr. Jones said it would be
nice to get younger people like middle school and high school kids at the meeting to participate in these
types of activities because it will help them remember it later in life.
The tenth activity is the potential stormwater impact demonstration. Mr. McClung said one person will be
needed to run the stormwater demo. DCR has a stormwater model, but it is currently in Williamsburg so
Mr. McClung is not sure if it will be back in Roanoke in time for us to use it. Mr. Jones asked if Virginia
Tech has one. Mr. McClung said he plans to check with them soon to see if they have a model that can be
loaned.
Mr. McClung said that concluded the information about the planned activities at the community meeting,
and he asked if they had any questions. Mr. Jones asked if Clean Valley Council had a stormwater model
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they could use. Ms. McMillan said the Clean Valley Council’s model is more of a pollution demo, and
that staff would like to have one that shows how stormwater runoff works. Mr. Jones asked if VDOT has
a model. Ms. McMillan said she doesn’t think they have one, but she knows Virginia Tech has one, and
that will be our next contact. Mr. McClung said he wants mostly interactive items at the meeting, but there
will be one quick PowerPoint presentation showing information about items such as doggy daycare. Ms.
McMillan mentioned that if they have any ideas for other activities to let staff know in next week or so.
Mr. Jones mentioned that the County has done a great job with the streambank restoration at Goode Park,
and maybe we could incorporate information about that into the meeting.
Mr. McClung mentioned that the Charles R. Hill Community Center is available on August 7, 2021, after
11:30 a.m., and on August 14, 2021, before 6 p.m. Mr. Liles said he is already booked up on those dates,
and Ms. Reid said August 14th is not good for her. It was decided to look into September or October for
available dates, and it might be cooler weather then as well. Ms. McMillan said that perhaps staff could
send out a Doodle Poll to line up some possible dates. Mr. Jones suggested having it on a Friday evening
when there isn’t a William Byrd football game. Mr. McClung said the meeting is planned to last a total of
about three hours. Mr. Liles mentioned that having it in the evening would work with serving food to
attract more attendees.
The next topic for discussion was Outdoor Refreshment Areas (ORAs) in the Town of Vinton, including
an overview of new state code provisions, potential locations in the Town, and the drafted code language.
Mr. McClung stated that this would be a pedestrian oriented area like the mall in Charlottesville. He said
the Town will have to apply for an ABC permit to cover the ORAs. The ORAs will have spaces dedicated
for ride share services such as Uber. Ms. McMillan stated that it has to be located certain distances away
from churches. The ORAs will be a part of the Town Code, not the Zoning Ordinance. The Vinton
Farmers’ Market area during events such as Mingle at the Market is an example of an ORA. The Town
would be allowed to have up to three areas for this type of use. Mr. McClung stated that most of the
language in the regulations cannot be changed as it is taken directly from the State Code. He said in an
ORA, you would be able to, for example, buy a beer at Twin Creeks and then go drink it at the Vinton
Farmers’ Market. He mentioned that alcohol would not be allowed to be consumed on any church
property. Mr. Jones thought that the vacant lot near 8th Street would make a good location for one of the
ORAs, but Mr. Liles said they are looking to have them in more dense areas with businesses nearby. Mr.
Jones said, in that case, the Farmers’ Market and the Vinton War Memorial would both be good locations.
The next items for discussion were the miscellaneous ordinance topics, and the first of which are the
proposed flag regulations. Mr. McClung stated that people will be able to display any type of flag. Single
family or two-family homes will be allowed a maximum flag pole height of 25 feet, and a maximum of
three flags per lot. Mr. McClung showed a copy of the proposed regulations in the PowerPoint. He
mentioned that other uses such as those that are commercial will be able to have flag poles up to 60 feet
tall. A larger flag would require a special use permit. Ms. McMillan asked if that should be a variance
from the BZA, rather than a special use permit. Mr. McClung said he would check on that to see if it
would go to the Planning Commission and Town Council or the BZA.
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The next topic was the proposed window coverage requirements for signs. Mr. McClung explained the
major points of discussion to keep in mind for window coverage for signs using the PowerPoint
presentation. Mr. Liles thought it was kind of funny how all this came up after the Twin Creeks’ mural
went up. However, Mr. McClung explained that it is temporary for use during construction and is used in
place of brown paper or tarps covering the window. Mr. Liles asked about the property across from the
Vinton Farmers’ Market. Ms. McMillan said that location is being used as a temporary storage facility,
which is technically not allowed in the CB-Central Business District. She stated that Planning and Zoning
was not aware of this agreement for the building to be used as storage. She said that the items being stored
will be delivered to that location, and then will relatively quickly be delivered out to customers. She stated
that it will not be long term storage of the items. Mr. Liles asked about mirror tint or other tint that covers
windows and if that would count. Ms. McMillan said as long as it doesn’t have a commercial message, it
would not be considered a sign and would not be regulated. She mentioned that having a mural is better
than tarps or paper covering the windows. Mr. McClung stated that permanent signs will be going to eight
line measurement, which will help with more sign area. He said that removing the permitting requirements
for temporary signs will also help. He mentioned that the maximum height for temporary signs will be
four feet. Ms. McMillan said that feather signs would likely be prohibited. Mr. Liles said at least the
feather signs do not take up as much overall space, even though they are taller. Mr. Liles stated that he
does not like the Town telling people what they can and can’t buy such as the feather flag signs. Mr.
McClung mentioned that Roanoke County prohibits feather signs, but they just do not enforce it. Ms. Reid
said she thinks they look better than some other types of signs. Mr. Liles said he also likes the feather flag
signs better than some of the other types of signs. Ms. McMillan said staff would revisit the feather flags
and reevaluate them. Mr. Liles said telling people they cannot do something is not very business friendly.
Ms. McMillan said staff would look into and see how we can address them. The discussion also included
differences between permanent and temporary signs. Mr. McClung stated that regardless of whether a sign
is temporary or permanent, only 25 percent of windows can be covered at a time. He said that window
signs will not be allowed for residential uses, and signs will be prohibited above the first floor unless a
business is actually located above the first floor. Lastly, home occupations will no longer be allowed to
have signs in residential areas. Mr. Liles said he thought it is good that the Town is doing something about
that. They briefly mentioned the home occupation Pilates sign on Duke Drive and the lighthouses and
cornhole games sign on Washington Avenue.
Mr. Liles asked for further questions or comments, and there were none. With there being nothing further
to discuss in the work session, a motion to adjourn was made by Ms. Reid, and it was seconded by Mr.
Jones. The meeting was adjourned by Mr. Liles at 7:29 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Anita McMillan
Planning Commission Secretary