HomeMy WebLinkAbout3/7/2019 - Work SessionMINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE TOWN OF VINTON PLANNING
COMMISSION HELD ON THURSDAY, MARCH 7, 2019, AT 6 P.M., AT THE VINTON
MUNICIPAL BUILDING, 311 SOUTH POLLARD STREET.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dave Jones, Vice Chairman
Bob Benninger
Bill Booth
Bob Patterson
MEMBERS ABSENT: Keith Liles, Chairman
STAFF PRESENT: Anita McMillan, Planning and Zoning Director
Nathan McClung, Principal Planner
Julie S. Tucei, Planning and Zoning Coordinator
AGENDA
WORK SESSION
I. Call to Order—Roll Call
II. Zoning Amendment Topics for Discussion:
1. Accessory Dwelling Units
a. Review attached ADU Memorandum
b. Review consultant’s recommendations in Vinton Zoning Revisions Framework
Document
2. Signage Ordinance Revisions
a. Review attached ordinance revisions draft
3. RB Setback Changes
a. Review consultant’s recommendations in Vinton Zoning Revisions Framework
Document
b. Review attached RB Setback Memorandum
4. Lot Coverage Requirements
a. Review attached Lot Coverage Memorandum
b. Discuss whether or not we want to pursue lot coverage requirements
c. If lot coverage requirements are implemented, consider whether accessory
structures should be included in this calculation
5. Parking Requirements
a. Watch YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akm7ik-H_7U
b. Review consultant’s recommendations in Vinton Zoning Revisions Framework
Document
6. Short-term Rentals
a. Discuss description of what a short-term rental means and the impact on localities
b. Keep it on the table for future meetings
III. Comments of Planning Commissioners and Planning Staff
VI. Adjournment
The work session of the Planning Commission was called to order at 6:03 p.m. by Vice Chairman Jones.
Roll was called, and all members were present, except Chairman Liles. Chairman Liles was out of town
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due to his job. Ms. McMillan stated that Chairman Liles will be unavailable for upcoming meetings
from Mondays through Thursdays. She said he will be reviewing the meeting packets and giving
comments on them. She mentioned that he can only meet on Fridays after 4 p.m., if needed. Vice
Chairman Jones asked how long Chairman Liles won’t be available for meetings during the week. Ms.
McMillan stated that it would be for the next 6 months. Ms. McMillan said he will continue to be
involved through email. Vice Chairman Jones asked if Chairman Liles would also miss council
meetings. Ms. McMillan said Chairman Liles will miss council meetings during that time.
The first item on the agenda, Zoning Amendment Topics for Discussion, was next. Ms. McMillan said
that staff can provide them with the suggested revisions for the ordinance if they wish. She also stated
that they need to decide when/if citizen involvement will be needed. She mentioned that Mr. McClung
has reviewed a lot of surrounding localities’ ordinances, as well as some outside of this area. Mr.
McClung showed them the “to review” chart he had prepared. For this meeting, he said he hopes to go
over six of the “to review” items. He said these items are just drafts, and staff will need their input on
them.
The first item to review was accessory dwelling units (ADU). Mr. McClung first described accessory
units/apartments for them. He stated that they are different from medical pods. The state requires
medical pods to be allowed. The medical pods cost around 80 to 120 thousand dollars. Vice Chairman
Jones agreed that ADU are different. Mr. McClung said ADU are meant to be more permanent than the
med pods. He stated that ADU can help limit urban sprawl and can help with lessening burden on
utilities such as water and sewer. Mr. Benninger mentioned that the Western Virginia Water Authority’s
position on ADU is to require a separate meter for accessory units. Mr. McClung stated that Roanoke
City requires the use of the existing water and sewer connections. He said that the consultants have
given us some recommendations for our ordinance update, but we do need to tailor them to the Town.
Mr. McClung stated that some localities require the owners to live on the property. Vice Chairman
Jones asked how the Town would be able to police that type of requirement. Mr. McClung said one way
would be to use the information on the water and sewer records. He said that there is an annual permit
process in Blacksburg for ADU. Vice Chairman Jones asked if, in Blacksburg, that was by Special Use
Permit. Mr. McClung said it is not the same as a Special Use Permit, it is just a policy. He mentioned
that he has rejected 2 to 3 ADU since he has been employed by the Town. Another thing to consider is
whether or not to require ADU owners to provide a parking space for the unit so the street isn’t clogged
with cars. Mr. McClung said that the industry standard for the size of an ADU is 800 square feet.
However, the consultants suggested for Vinton that it be 300 square feet. Ms. McMillan said, not only
are ADU good for elderly citizens, they can also be good for people whose grown children would like to
move back home after being away for some time. Mr. McClung mentioned a request he recently
received from a parent who wanted to convert his garage into an apartment for his disabled son. He said
the regulations will have to specifically spell out who can live there and define family or caretakers.
Vice Chairman Jones asked how it could be policed by the Town. Mr. McClung said it would be
difficult to police because we are not going to do DNA tests to see who is related. He stated that if the
regulations are written that ADU are for family use only, it would cut out the typical landlord/tenant
situation. Mr. McClung said that in regards to Special Use Permits (SUP) for ADU, most localities
don’t require a SUP. Roanoke City; however, does require a special exception for them. Mr. McClung
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stated that the consultants recommended only allowing ADU in the R2 District, but he said he thinks it
should be allowed in areas which allow single family detached residences including the R-1, R-2, and R-
3 Districts. Ms. McMillan said this issue is not going away. Mr. McClung said they will have to
determine if ADU should be family only or for additional income rentals. Vice Chairman Jones said
staff and the commission will need to try to come up with regulations that will work. Ms. McMillan
said they can come up with some recommendations, and then present those to a committee. Mr.
Benninger asked if Town Council has considered short term rentals. Ms. McMillan said they have not
yet, but the Commission will be considering them—they are on tonight’s agenda. She mentioned a
rental house that is used by Virginia Transformer for rotating their engineers in and out of the area every
few months. Vice Chairman Jones asked how that is different from regular rentals. Ms. McMillan said
there is no difference really, but if we regulate it then the Town may be able to get some revenue from
the rentals. Vice Chairman Jones asked if staff will make a recommendation on the ADU. Mr. McClung
stated that he is just giving them some information about them tonight. He said we will probably want
to have some input from the public through the committees on the issue.
The next item up for discussion were the revisions to the signage ordinance. Mr. McClung stated that he
used Norfolk’s ordinance when he was drafting proposals for the Town. He stated that the sign
ordinance needs revisions due to a court case in Gilbert, AZ which mandated that localities can’t
regulate signs on content. Localities may now only regulate signage on the size. Mr. McClung said that
a copy of the sign ordinance had been provided to them in their electronic packet. He said the items in
black ink are what is already in the ordinance, and the items in blue ink are the suggested changes. He
said that Town Staff and contractors need to have a sign ordinance that is easy to use, and said that the
proposed revised ordinance is easier to use. However, he mentioned that the proposed ordinance would
be stricter. Ms. McMillan stated that there is a lot to go over within the proposed sign ordinance.
Unfortunately, there won’t be time to go over it entirely tonight. Ms. McMillan said that she believes
we are ready to send it to a committee. Ms. McMillan asked if there were any questions about the signs.
Mr. Booth asked about the regulations for flag poles. Both Ms. McMillan and Mr. McClung stated that
flag poles are exempt from the regulations. Mr. McClung performed a brief demonstration on how to
look up a sign in the draft ordinance. He said the suggested changes are a hybrid of our current
ordinance and other localities’ ordinances. Mr. McClung said if they are comfortable with the sign
ordinance suggestions, we could move them on to the committee. He mentioned that the new ordinance
can no longer single out certain types of businesses such as gas stations. Vice Chairman Jones said he
would bet that sign permits are probably one of the most requested things the Planning and Zoning
Department does. Mr. McClung said we definitely need to get a lot of public input on this section since
signs can be a touchy subject.
The next item up for discussion was the RB District Setback Changes. Mr. McClung stated that staff is
proposing to change the RB front yard setback to 15 feet. He said he researched the RB District by
taking all the RB properties and measuring the setbacks with GIS. He said about 49 percent of
properties in the RB District do not meet the current setbacks. However, if the ordinance is changed as
proposed, only 17 percent of properties would then be nonconforming. He said Dr. Chandler applauded
the town for considering this revision to bring more properties into compliance. Mr. McClung
mentioned that this subject is very important, but it should not be too controversial. He stated that the
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Town wants to incentivize traditional neighborhood guidelines and also community walkability, and this
revision would help with those items. Ms. McMillan said Mr. McClung used about 157 properties in the
sample to see the compliance percentage. Vice Chairman Jones said Nathan brings new things to the
table, and he said Mr. McClung’s presentation is great so far.
The next item up for discussion was Lot Coverage Requirements. Mr. McClung mentioned that a hot
topic today is stormwater which is affected by lot coverage. He stated that GIS would be difficult to use
to regulate this, and we also don’t want to be physically measuring each property either. Mr. McClung
said for his calculations, he only used the principal structure for the numbers, however principal
structures are only a small part of the equation. He stated that the consultant recommend that the town
expand the lot coverage that is only currently in R3 District to the other districts. Mr. McClung did a
demonstration on how the lot coverage regulations could work. Vice Chairman Jones mentioned that
the lot coverage regulations would have stopped the construction of the large, red garage on Duke Drive.
Ms. McMillan asked if they agree on the proposed lot coverage regulations. Vice Chairman Jones said
he thinks they need to have them. Mr. Benninger asked if a tennis court would count towards the lot
coverage, and Ms. McMillan responded that it would be exempt.
The next item up for discussion were the revisions to the parking requirements. Mr. McClung first
showed a video on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akm7ik-H_7U) about parking. Ms.
McMillan stated that we may want to change the requirements from a minimum amount to a maximum
amount of parking required. She said that she believes the Town currently requires too many parking
spaces. As an example, she mentioned the apartments going into the former William Byrd High School
building. She said that they were able to work with the developers on the parking requirements when
they rezoned the property to MUD. Vice Chairman Jones asked about the parking for the new Macado’s
restaurant. Ms. McMillan stated that they have an agreement with the Town to use the Vinton War
Memorial parking lot as overflow for the restaurant. Vice Chairman Jones mentioned that some of the
Macado’s overflow has been parking in the Thrasher Church parking lot and walking over to the
restaurant. However, he stated that the church doesn’t have an issue with that. Mr. McClung said the
typical maximum is 120% of the requirement, or we could just go maximum parking outright. Vice
Chairman Jones said the current parking requirements which cause a lot of paving are why we have
stormwater issues.
The next item up for discussion was Short-term Rentals. Mr. McClung mentioned that we had discussed
this earlier along with the ADU. In response to the question of lodging taxes, Mr. McClung said we
would have to pull in the Finance Department on that. Vice Chairman Jones said a lot of this will be
hard to police.
Speaking of rentals, Mr. McClung said we will also have to look into scooter rentals soon as they are
getting ready to bring them into Roanoke City.
The final item of the work session was the comments from Planning Commissioners and Staff. Vice
Chairman Jones said we need to move the items to citizen committees. He reminded everyone that the
Commissioners had suggested names of people who might want to serve on the committees. Ms.
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McMillan said she has spoken to many of them and some have already agreed to be on the committees.
She said she still has several people to call.
Ms. McMillan reminded them that they will have to meet in April to hear the Capital Improvement Plan
(CIP). She said they can discuss the short term rentals more and can work on a schedule for the
committees.
Vice Chairman Jones asked what had changed in the department because it seems that this presentation
tonight has been a lot more involved. Ms. McMillan said that with the Code Enforcement going down
to the Police Department, the Planning Department has more time to work on these types of items. Vice
Chairman Jones stated that they need to get the word back to Town Council that it was a good move to
move Code Enforcement to the Police Department.
The next meeting was schedule tentatively for April 11, 2019, at 5:30 p.m. The meeting will consist of
hearing the CIP and also continuing the Zoning Ordinance updates discussion.
Ms. McMillan stated that she will check to see if Chairman Liles can remotely attend meetings,
especially if there is a need for a public hearing.
Mr. McClung mentioned that Roanoke City has put a lot of their items to special exceptions for their
Board of Zoning Appeals (BZA) to hear.
Vice Chairman Jones said he applauds tonight’s presentation. He also thanked Staff for providing the
Samsung tablets for the packet delivery, and he said it will save a lot of time and resources by using
them from now on.
Vice Chairman Jones mentioned that the Town will be collecting old trash cans and recycling them since
the new Town carts had been rolled out. He asked Ms. McMillan to ask Public Works about making
people move the new carts that were delivered to the back of their houses. He said leaving them at the
street could be a security issue because people will know who is home and who is not.
With there being nothing further to discuss, the work session was adjourned at 7:41 p.m. by Vice
Chairman Jones
Respectfully Submitted,
Anita McMillan
Planning Commission Secretary