HomeMy WebLinkAbout3/25/2021 - Work SessionMINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE TOWN OF VINTON PLANNING
COMMISSION HELD ON THURSDAY, MARCH 25, 2021, AT 6:30 P.M., VIA ELECTRONIC
COMMUNICATION MEANS.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Keith Liles, Chairman
David “Dave” Jones, Vice Chairman
Robert “Bob” Benninger (at 6:41 p.m.)
Andrew “Ty” Braxton
Sarah Reid
STAFF PRESENT: Richard Peters, Town Manager
Anita McMillan, Planning and Zoning Director
Nathan McClung, Principal Planner
Anne Cantrel, Treasurer/Finance Director
Julie Tucei, Planning and Zoning Coordinator
OTHERS PRESENT: David Hill, Davii, Developer
Tyler McDaniel, Hill Studio
AGENDA
PARTICIPATION WILL BE BY ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS PURSUANT TO
SECTION 15.2-1413, CODE OF VIRGINIA (1950), AS AMENDED, ORDINANCE NO. 1016
AND SECTION 4-0.01(G) OF CHAPTER 1289 OF THE 2020 ACTS OF THE
VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY
The Vinton Planning Commission will hold a Work Session at 6:30 p.m. on Thursday, March 25,
2021, using electronic communication means without the public being present. Participation by
Planning Commission members, staff, and the public will only be available through electronic
means. The public will have access to observe the Work Session and Public Hearing through a
livestream on the Town’s Facebook page at www.facebook.com/ vintonva. Citizens may register to
speak at the Public Hearing by calling the Town Clerk’s Office at 540-983-0607 or by sending an
email to sjohnson@vintonva.gov by 12 Noon on Wednesday, March 24, 2021. Once registered, the
citizen who wishes to address the Planning Commission will be provided the Zoom meeting
information and will be allowed to join the meeting and address the Planning Commission by
electronic means.
WORK SESSION—6:30 P.M.
I. Call to Order—Roll Call
II. CONFIRMATION THAT MEETING IS BEING HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH
ORDINANCE NO. 1016 AND SECTION 4-0.01(G) OF CHAPTER 1289 OF THE 2020
ACTS OF THE VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND ROLL CALL
III. Briefings
1. To discuss and receive comments on the proposed rezoning of the historic Gish Mill
properties, located at 350 and 0 Gus Nicks Boulevard, Vinton, Virginia, Tax Map
Numbers 060.11-04-22.00-0000 and 060.11-04-23.00-0000, from M-1 Limited Industrial
to Mixed Use Development (MUD) District.
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2. To receive the adopted FY 2021 Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) and to review,
discuss, and receive comments on the proposed Fiscal Year (FY) 2022 - 2028 CIP of the
Town of Vinton.
IV. Comments of Planning Commissioners and Planning Staff
V. Adjournment of Work Session
Ms. Tucei took the Zoom meeting live to Facebook and turned the meeting over to Mr. Liles. Mr. Liles
welcomed everyone to the meeting and called it to order at 6:34 p.m. He asked Ms. McMillan for the roll
call. She called the roll and all members were present, except Mr. Benninger who arrived at 6:41 p.m.
She also mentioned that the following members of Town Staff were present: Richard Peters, Anita
McMillan, Nathan McClung, Anne Cantrell, and Julie Tucei. Ms. McMillan said that Mr. David Hill of
Davii, the Developer, and Mr. Tyler McDaniel, of Hill Studio, were also present in the meeting. Ms.
McMillan then read the following statement, “I would like to confirm that our meeting is being held in
accordance with Town Ordinance No. 1016 and Section 4-0.01(g) of Chapter 1289 of the 2020 Acts of
the Virginia General Assembly, and everyone present is participating by electronic means. Mr. Liles the
meeting is now yours.”
Mr. Liles called for the first item on the agenda the briefing on the proposed rezoning of the historic Gish
Mill Properties. He then turned it over to Mr. McClung who presented from a PowerPoint slide show
about the project. A copy of the PowerPoint containing all details discussed by Mr. McClung will be made
a part of the permanent record of this meeting. After the first portion of the PowerPoint, Mr. McClung
introduced Mr. David Hill. Mr. Hill also presented from the same PowerPoint. As he showed the images
within the PowerPoint, he said some of the proposed uses would benefit from creekside location,
especially the restaurant and market on the main level. He stated that they plan for the basement area to
be a speakeasy, and it will be very spartan due to the flood risk. Mr. Hill said that the upper stories will
be lodging that will be larger than typical so that it can later be converted into apartments if the lodging
use does not work out. He mentioned that the sounds of the creek and streets should help buffer any noise
created by the proposed uses, especially any from the proposed outside deck area. Mr. Hill stated that he
will be the property owner, but the restaurant owner will be Mr. Dave Trinkle, who also owns Fork in the
Market and some other restaurants in Roanoke City. He said that the planned market will supplement the
restaurant and will have carryout food and other merchandise for sale. Mr. Hill quickly went over the
square footage of each use, as shown in the PowerPoint. He also showed some renderings of what the
finished product will look like, as also shown in the PowerPoint. Mr. Hill said they will be able to provide
a number of parking spaces on the lot and will be adding some additional spaces that can also be used by
nearby greenway users. The greenway will connect to this property via a proposed crosswalk on Gus
Nicks Boulevard. Mr. Hill said he would be delighted for the greenway to be extended through this
property in the future. Mr. Liles asked if the opening into the parking lot to the left would still be open.
Mr. Hill said that access would still be open and available for use. Mr. Peters said that he would like to
highlight that the final crosswalk plans for Gus Nicks Boulevard have not yet been finalized. He said the
crosswalk location could be moved in either direction compared to what is shown on the rendering, and it
has yet to be fully planned. He mentioned that there will be a respite island in the middle of Gus Nicks
Boulevard within the crosswalk to give people a chance to cross two lanes, wait for any oncoming traffic,
and then safely cross the other two lanes. Mr. Jones asked if there is enough room at the back of the
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former mill for the greenway. Mr. Hill said they have looked at that, and it would be too tight. He said if
the greenway were placed back there, they would not be able to have the proposed deck due to alcohol
regulations, so they will not be able to accommodate the greenway behind the property. Mr. Hill
mentioned that the he believes that the ultimate goal is to get the greenway over to Vinyard Park. Ms.
McMillan said the Town applied for grants funds for phase 3 of the greenway project, but it was not funded
this round. She said they are looking at options for the greenway that do not involve Norfolk Southern
property. Mr. Hill said the Town is welcome to use a portion of the mill property for the greenway. Next,
Mr. Hill went over the outside design of the building as shown in the PowerPoint. He stated that the
building is designed with the thought that sometime in our lifetime there will be floodwater in the building.
He pointed out that there is only one planned addition to the building. He said part of that addition is for
the fire escape. He also showed renderings of the inside of the building including the restaurant, speakeasy
and lodging areas, which are also included in the PowerPoint. Mr. Hill pointed out the approximate
location of the 100-year floodplain on the rendering. Mr. Benninger asked where the 10-year flood
elevation is located. Mr. Hill said he did not know, and he asked if Mr. McClung knew. Mr. McClung said
FEMA is only concerned with the 100 and 500-year floods so he did not know either. Mr. Hill said Mr.
Keller Poole, former manager of the country store, said he has only seen water in the building in 1985 and
again around 2000, with the flooding in 2000 being minor. Mr. Jones said the Cargill Mill in Vinton was
designed such that the water flows in, goes through and flows back out. He said that, in 1985, there was
18 feet of water in the Cargill Mill in the warehouse area. Mr. Hill asked if Cargill is the mill over on
Walnut Avenue in Vinton, and Mr. Jones confirmed that it is located there. Mr. Hill said most mills have
this problem due to their proximity to water. Mr. Jones said Mr. Hill could also ask Mr. Leslie or his son
Greg, who own the property next to the Gish Mill property, how bad the water was in 1985. Mr. Hill
thought that was a great idea and said he would definitely talk with them about it. Mr. Hill said they would
also know more about the 2000 flood. Mr. Hill turned the PowerPoint presentation back over to Mr.
McClung who finished going through the rest of it. Mr. McClung said that Town Staff recommends
approval of this request due to all the reasons shown in the PowerPoint presentation. He mentioned that
this would be the third MUD zoned property in the Town. He stated that this project is truly a
public/private project that should be a great success. Mr. Jones asked what negative effect if any would
changing the zoning to MUD have on Mr. Leslie’s property. Mr. McClung said it would not really affect
it, as Mr. Leslie’s property will remain zoned as M-1. Only the two parcels containing the mill properties
will be rezoned to MUD. Mr. Jones asked if there have been any comments from the community that
have been received liking or opposing the idea. Mr. McClung said no comments have been received yet,
but the informal comments about the project have been positive. Mr. Peters stated that around 2017, the
Town held community meetings about this project with good citizen engagement on the conceptual plans.
Mr. Jones said he could not think of anything negative about this project. He said it is a great proposed
use, and if we do not do the rezoning, the Town will lose it. Mr. Liles said he agreed with Mr. Jones. Mr.
Braxton asked if they are leaning towards apartments or short-term type rentals. Mr. McClung pointed out
that in MUD you can do lodging and/or apartments. Mr. McClung said it would come down to whether
the larger spaces would be comfortable for long-term rentals or not. Mr. Hill said Vinton has had some
great historic apartments developed recently, but also believes short-term lodging would be beneficial for
the Town. Mr. Hill said, at first they will likely try them as VRBO units, but will be flexible about using
them as apartments later. Mr. Liles said in 2017, the Town did offer an opportunity for public input, as
Mr. Peters mentioned earlier. He said during that time, someone had the great idea of asking Mr. Hill if
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he would like to draw some conceptual plans for the building, which he did. Mr. Liles said Mr. Hill then
went out and found partners for this project. He thanked him for taking on the project. Mr. Hill stated that
they want to make it a great project for Vinton. Ms. Reid said she thought that the thoroughness of the
plan by Mr. Hill is excellent. She said it is very impressive, and that it is great to see the historic places
being revitalized. Ms. Reid asked if there would be access provided for people to be able to walk down
to the creek. Mr. Hill said that it is steep terrain behind the mill. He said there might be an area near the
entranceway to the speakeasy, but there is not a lot of room in that area. Ms. Reid said she has never seen
the waterway in that area. Mr. Liles said it is very nice back there. He also mentioned that the streambank
repairs by Roanoke City would widen the creek and change its course somewhat near the bridge. He said
the project might allow people to be able to canoe and kayak in the area. Mr. McClung explained a bit
about the city streambank project. He said the project would repair erosion and help the fish populations
in the creek. He said they are hoping it will attract more trout. Mr. Hill shared some photos of the stream
behind the building and said it is really quite beautiful back there. Mr. Jones said he has never been in the
building, except the showroom. He said he would really like to look around before they start renovating
it. He also said he hopes some of the old mill equipment will be left down in the speakeasy. Mr. Jones
stated that he is also curious about the bin portions of the mill, too. He mentioned that someone did fall
into one of the bins about 20 years ago and they had be extracted out by rescue personnel. Mr. Hill said
he would welcome Mr. Jones to come and look at the building and explain how some of the equipment
was used. Mr. Jones said some of that equipment could be showcased and used for the decoration of the
building. Mr. Hill asked Nathan to set up a field trip for Mr. Jones. Mr. Liles asked if there were any
other comments, which there were none. Mr. Liles asked if they should move on to the next item, and
Mr. Jones asked if they needed to vote on the request. Mr. Liles stated that the vote would be taken during
the joint meeting with Town Council. Mr. Hill said that anyone else is welcome to tour the facility. Both
Ms. Reid and Mr. Liles indicated that they would like to take a tour.
The next item on the work session agenda was the briefing on the FY 2021 and the FY 2022 – 2028 Capital
Improvement Plan. Mr. Liles turned the meeting over to Ms. Cantrell, Town Treasurer/Finance Director.
Ms. Cantrell stated that she has good news for them this year. She asked Mr. McClung to begin the
PowerPoint presentation. She presented the CIP proposals and ideas included in the PowerPoint, a copy
of which will be made a part of the permanent record. At one point during the presentation, Mr. Liles
asked if some of the funding Ms. Cantrell mentioned is for Mountain View Road improvements and
repairs. Ms. Cantrell stated that the Town has the money set aside for the Mountain View Road project,
and the Town is just waiting for the state funding to come through. She mentioned that there is one change
since the PowerPoint was created. She stated that the museum electrical upgrade costs came in higher, so
the streetscape planters have been moved out into the following year. She highlighted the FY 22, FY 23,
FY 24, FY 25, FY 26, FY 27, and FY 28 projects that are planned, as also shown in the PowerPoint
presentation. She stated that, at this point, the Town has a fully funded CIP plan for the next 7 years. It
was mentioned that, overall, the role of the Planning Commission in the CIP process is to provide advice
and direction to Town Council on it. Mr. Peters added one quick note that they are currently monitoring
the American Recovery Funds and are anticipating obtaining additional funds from that. He said with
those funds, there is flexibility for water and sewer projects. He said they are just beginning to get
guidance on the allowable use of the funds. Mr. Liles asked if the Cares Act monies would also take care
of the items in the Municipal Building that could not be completed in the recent renovations. Mr. Peters
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said probably not, but there are plenty of water and sewer needs and the stimulus funds will allow the
Town to escalate those projects sooner. Mr. Liles asked if there are any other questions. Mr. Jones asked
about the FY 28 refuse truck replacement, about which he said we seem to do a lot of replacing. Mr. Peters
said the most recent truck purchased is about 2 years old now. He said about every 8 to 10 years you have
to plan on replacement of them. He said it is used daily, and it receives a lot of wear and tear. Mr. Jones
said he is not questioning the year to be replaced, but he is questioning if it should be a one-arm bandit
truck that would help cut payroll costs. Mr. Peters said they would consider a one-arm bandit in the future.
Mr. Liles said last time they did a replacement, they were told the one arm bandit would not work in the
alleys, but he said that in the future there would be a more in depth study for the future replacement. Mr.
Peters said he would put that in the notes for the next purchase. Mr. Jones said one thing he has been after
for years is fixing the streets for storm sewers, and they did get the one fixed behind Vinton Baptist finally.
He stated that they still have the stormwater issues at corner of Pollard Street and Lee Avenue near the
post office. He said that perhaps the work could be tied in with other repairs. Mr. Peters said they have a
proposal for some work along Lee Avenue in that area, and they will look at the stormwater issues in that
area. He stated they would be looking at this area in the next 6 to 8 months and will be looking into getting
some funding for the Lee Avenue area then. Mr. Jones asked where the skatepark would be located. Mr.
Peters said there are a couple of locations being considered for a skate park, but they have not narrowed
it down yet. Mr. Jones praised them for the all work they have done. Mr. Liles stated that Town Staff is
phenomenal. Mr. Jones mentioned that there have been many changes with staff recently. He also said
that everyone outside of town is talking about how good things are in Vinton. Mr. Liles said it is becoming
a “go to” town. He asked if there were any other questions or comments. Ms. McMillan asked them to
state if they are in agreement with the CIP information that was presented by the Finance Department.
Mr. Braxton asked if this was contingent on Cares Act Funding. Mr. Peters stated that it is not based on
that. Mr. Jones said he thinks it is good. Mr. Liles, Ms. Reid, Mr. Benninger, and Mr. Braxton all agreed
with it as presented.
The next meeting is the joint public hearing with Town Council on April 6, 2021. Ms. McMillan said
they would hear the rezoning request for the Gish Mill property. Mr. Jones asked if it would be a live
meeting. Mr. Liles said it has to be, but Mr. Peters said it would still be virtual. He stated that they are
looking at resuming live, in-person meetings soon, but not by then.
Mr. Liles asked if there are any further questions or comments. There were no further comments or
questions. With there being nothing further to discuss in the work session, a motion to adjourn was made
by Ms. Reid and seconded by Mr. Jones. The meeting was adjourned by Mr. Liles at 8:08 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Anita McMillan
Planning Commission Secretary